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What I'm "selling" is fact that democratic countries choose how they want to live and be governed. You have yours and I have mine. Americans chose consciously a dysfunctional government that the electorate now abhors and consequently chosen arguably the two most unpopular nominees in its history to be president. According to polls, the universally repugnant campaign will produce nothing or worse for your shooting fraternity. Canadian gun laws may be an improvement.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
I don't know how you would rank Canada within right and left categories. We just sent packing a conservative federal government for its autocratic governance. Two of my conservative waterfowling and fishing buddies put 2 X 3 signs on their lawns saying "I am a conservative but Harper has to go."



Nothing like completely misrepresenting the results of our last election. If two "Conservative" supporters had those signs on their lawns, then two things are likely. Either they were easily misled by the incredible bias of the MSM for the previous 4 years or, in classic Maritime Canadian fashion, their incomes depend on being on the right side of the election. Graft, government subsidies and porkbarreling are the major industries out your way.


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For veracity, James, I qualified it, I think, as "a comparative slaughterhouse." How otherwise, among modern, industrialized countries?

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Originally Posted By: King Brown

I believe no government can be trusted to do what it promises, even as a sacred trust, and despite that Canada has come to a reasonable public accommodation with its gun laws.There are indications of making handgun restrictions less onerous and currently a small petition of 25,000 signatures has asked to lift restrictions on AR15s.

Other than that, Canadian gunners have more freedom than the US regulatory rigamarole. I haven't heard a moan or cry (other than the above) since we got rid of the long gun registry. I have no use for an AR15, consider them ugly, and believe those who want them should organize as long gunners did to get public support for their mission.



Join the Canadian Gunnutz forums, 150,000 member strong and you will hear all sorts of moaning and crying about the current state of affairs.

And the idea that things are going to get better is just laughable. The new Liberal government has turned over the decision making process for what long arms should be prohibited or restricted to the RCMP. Things will not be getting better!!


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The Atlantic region is all those things, James, except the scandals and public largesse that get national attention always come from west of here.

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They'll have to come up with more than a puny 25,000 names in a national petition to lift restrictions on AR15s in today's public consciousness, James.

Hell, I led a provincial campaign in a province of less than a million to stop casinos, including 50,000-name petition (and support of every Baptist congregation) and I might as well have been spitting in the wind.

For all the RCMP problems, I'd put more trust in it than any political party, even if it is commissioned to enforce and not make the laws. Don't see appreciable public blowback there.

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King Brown has been corrected countless times about his dishonest and deliberate misrepresentations of Canadian Firearms laws, the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and murder rates in the U.S. compared to the rest of the world. Yet he always returns with more of the same bullshit.

At some point, serial dishonesty becomes pathological... a mental illness. There is no sense in debating it. You simply illuminate it and understand who you are dealing with. King Brown is no friend to U.S. gun owners, and no army has won a war by allowing the enemy to permeate their ranks.

Ken61 recognized the Soviet inspired tactics used by King here awhile back:

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I think many here don't recognize King's penchant for Passive-Aggressive communication, and mistake it for some degree of decorum. He he is able to convey unreasonable concepts in a usually reasonable manner. That's the essence of attempted sociopathic indoctrination and manipulation.


The real King Brown is the Troll who repeatedly posts things like this, while neglecting to mention that Infringements upon our Gun Rights almost always come directly from the Liberal Left anti-gunners he supports:

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The Second is what originalists and others want it to be, the former seeing any variances as infringements. So it goes and ever will be. It is not inviolable and inalienable as some members want all of us to believe.


King even twists reason when he found a perverted excuse for Obama to violate his Oath of Office:

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With respect, you tend to believe the written as something sacrosanct as it appears in the Constitution and other bills. Look at the Oath you posted: It says only that the president will do to "the best of my ability" to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. What he determines "best"---wrongly or rightly.


King even expects you to believe his dishonest crap when he is confronted about it in his own words!

Originally Posted By: King Brown
For veracity, James, I qualified it, I think, as "a comparative slaughterhouse." How otherwise, among modern, industrialized countries?


But King DID NOT refer to the U.S. as a "comparative slaughterhouse as he claims. James had it 100% correct:

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My family has no need to carry for personal safety. It doesn't live in a slaughterhouse.



I will leave it to others to question the voracity of your other claims in the post. But implying the US is a slaughterhouse is beyond the pale.


Veracity from King Brown??? That's simply hilarious at this point. And apparently impossible too.

Dishonesty is not civility. King Brown is not our friend. King is the perfect example of why we could never trust the Left with a Gun Registration database.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
They'll have to come up with more than a puny 25,000 names in a national petition to lift restrictions on AR15s in today's public consciousness, James.

Hell, I led a provincial campaign in a province of less than a million to stop casinos, including 50,000-name petition (and support of every Baptist congregation) and I might as well have been spitting in the wind.

For all the RCMP problems, I'd put more trust in it than any political party, even if it is commissioned to enforce and not make the laws. Don't see appreciable public blowback there.


You are quite right King. 25,000 names isn't nearly sufficient. But what do you expect when public opinion of what constitutes an assault weapon, what an AR actually is, has been so shaped by massive public misinformation from media who either didn't give a shit about accuracy or purposely mislead the public to further their own agenda.

It's kinda like the RCMP and other forces displaying the "haul" of illegal "sniper" rifles when they bust someone for having hunting rifles but no PAL.

It's called disinformation and the left, as well as totalitarian forces of any ilk, have it down to a science.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
The Atlantic region is all those things, James, except the scandals and public largesse that get national attention always come from west of here.


Well, I'll grant you that Quebec is west of you, but there is no shortage of scandalous government graft and waste in your neck of the woods. The difference between Atlantic Canada and Quebec with points FURTHER west in Canada, is that the rest of the country (Manitoba excepted) typically contributes more to the economy and governments than they take.

Atlantic Canada would be dead in the water without the employment provided by different levels of government. It is THE industry.


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"Hell, I led a provincial campaign in a province of less than a million to stop casinos, including 50,000-name petition (and support of every Baptist congregation) and I might as well have been spitting in the wind. "

Guess the casino folks weren't impressed by your mad forestry skills. I know where the Catholics stood. We love our Bingo!

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