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Is personal protection or self defense not legal in Canada? That would be news to the Sask. Canadians I know...Geo

Yes, you have missed something.

When the 'peoples' and 'electorates' are choosing the next regulator, only 3% of them want a gun regulator. Thus, we are stuck with the unanswered question of who 'they' are, beholden to the elite 3%, and what their 'legitimate concerns' are. But, can we at least consider those elite 3% lucky to have the unwavering support of our double gunning 'friends' on the left.

Was it just a couple of weeks ago that double obama voter and distinguished member nca summed up the anti gun lock step position? He said something to the effect that, he freely admitted to hill's anti history, anti campaign message, and certain anti actions. Why, because he liked every other position of her's, not related to gun control. In other words, his position is a hundred percent excoriated, not just the elite part.

Did I mention that I have certified my anecdotal stories as A1, and that the 3% came from Gallup?

You may be correct, possibly so from what I read here of the need for personal safety. I'm leery of imputing a motive because in Canada buying for personal safety, as James says, will most likely militate against the purchase. I also understand the longstanding lack of trust in your governance, from London and now Washington!

What is also germane, is to not forget that discussing this 'agreeably and civilly' is nothing more than discussing a Canadian 'sport'. I suppose it might be helpful to know what rights Canadians have to their sports? Let me guess, Canada has an elite 3% endowing and denying sport? In a compliant society, are there any polls out that imply hockey's popularity must conclude the need for more control over less popular 'sports'.

King, hidden in there is my real point.

Polling has become problematic and unreliable. The pollsters themselves will tell you their industry is in crisis as the tried and true methods of reaching a fair cross section of the public have become more difficult due to changing technologies.

This crisis of access is more likely to create skewed results. Additionally most of the MSM has a left of centre bent to it. It has an agenda, as do politicians. Thus poll questions get spun, poll results get spun. Some poll results get buried.

For us, as Canadians, to imagine what we read or hear in the MSM about the US and what commentary we hear about what polls, I think we would be mistaken to think those commentaries and reports accurately reflect the broad cross section of Americans. Including Gallop and Pew and anyone else.

There is a reason why, in Canada, different polling companies are aligned with different political parties.

George, it is not legal, except in extraordinarily few circumstances, to buy or have a firearm for the purpose of self defense.

By that I mean defense from another human.

That's not to say some don't have guns for those purposes but it is not a legitimate reason for owning a firearm and our laws make the reason to own a restricted weapon germane in assessing whether you should be allowed to have one.

From a policing perspective, your and our guys are always telling us to leave policing to them, not vigilantism. A successful cc application in Canada is very rare; I know none with one.

A Mountie friend told me a person needs a good lawyer if they use violence with a firearm or 2 X 4 on apprehension of a person with lighted match in a hayloft, climbing in a window, leaving with private property.

A case dragged through the courts for years of a Chinese shopkeeper in Toronto looking at a prison term for shooting at thieves leaving his store. He had been burglarized and robbed half-a-dozen times.

I believe Canadian shooters have ideas or plans if they felt lives were in danger. Legality would be problematic, likely not. My firearms are unloaded and locked in a gunroom. I have no need for them for personal safety.

George, at the local theatre in conversation with a person I didn't know, I told of a Mountie saying " there's no crime" in our county. Lots of fighting, in families and otherwise which he blamed mostly on minor hockey games, but no crime.

The woman gave me a big smile and told me of her experience buying groceries at the mall with her young children, including a case of beer. In the loading of the kids and groceries, she forgot to put in the beer.

At the liquor store a week later, she told the clerk this is my second case, she had left the last one in the parking lot. "Oh, you're the one," the clerk said. ""Here it is. Someone found it and returned it." Canada is not all like that but it's different.

I'd put my money on your Saskatchewan friends being the same.

Any polls about hockey would reveal that while we can't win all the big cups Canada takes great pleasure in providing top-notch players to your winning teams.---as the US does to ours.