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I'm looking at a saucer & sohn 16 ga. double, grade 2 (I'm told). Two crowns
(one larger), two circles with "16"s inside, "crown S"," Crown W", two "16/1"'s,
a faint smokeless proof (I think), "W", "Nicht fur kugel", ser # 61xxx.

Anyone have a date in mind?
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You can interpolate. It wears both the quality & shooting performance crowns.

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Thanks, Raimey.
1897?? That's a surprise. Can you identify the Crown/S Crown/U & Crown/W
and the little figure with large boots and a club(?) ? Also, is this a Prussian gun?
I see no "prussian" in evidence.
These marks are under the receiver. Under the Bbls : Crown/S, eagle, 61xxx,
207M, Nicht für kugel, papp.16, V, and 65.4,75S.P.28,5BL, W
All greek to me.
Gun has side plates and fully engraved by Ad. Loesche.

Appreciate any further info Raimey, or anyone knowledgeable.
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Crown/S - Schrot/Shot
Crown/U - Inspection
Crown/W - Constriction
Wildmann w/ Club/Staff
Nicht Für Kugel - Choke
Papp. 16 - Cardboard type shotshell
The other data is load data. Can you supply an image?

Ah, Adolf Loesche, Hoflieferant, Magdeburg - firearms merchant.




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PAPP 12-65 ... 5 3/4 S.P. .... 34 1/2 Bl.

A similar example from this thread:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post424362

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I'll do my best about some pics later on, but I'm "tech. challenged".
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Just from your numbers, 4,75S.P. 28,5BL that would be 4 3/4 of powder S.P.( Schultze Powder ) & 28 1/2 grammes of lead.

Papp 16-65, 4 3/4 S.P., 28 1/2 Bl.

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Please send your full email address. I've Emailed quite a few pics from our iPhone to me which I can forward to you, if I have your full email address.
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Please send me your full email address. I've emailed a number of good pics from my iPhone to my mac for forwarding.
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My email is in my profile but I'll send it to you.

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