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It does. Thanks Bill.


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Originally Posted By: Stan
Originally Posted By: Boats
What's your reason for 7/8 most of the time ?. 3/4 oz in the 20 patterns very well and breaks Clay targets just fine. Game loads another thing, they need larger shot and more of it.

Boats


I dunno. Two trips to Argentina and nearly 10,000 doves taken with it there and here, over the last 13 years, might have something to do with it. Also, getting into a shoot off for HOA in the 20 ga. event at a major sporting clays shoot. I probably don't know what I'm talking about, tho', since I have never shot a 3/4 oz. load in a 20 gauge gun in my life. And I honestly don't see myself ever doing so. If I can't handle the recoil of a 7/8 oz. load, I need to hang it up. BTW, I am NOT one of these "lighter guns are better" guys.

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I see your point.

On the Parker Clubs site is a copy of Recomended loads for 20 G Hammer Guns published when my gun was built. Both 3/4 and 7/8 are listed with the advice use appropriate loads for the intended game.

Not planning to use a 125 year old gun for high volume dove shooting 3/4 is appropriate. The 1923 Vintage Trojan I use either 3/4 or 7/8 but rarely hunt with it easier to run 3/4 oz in both guns. It's not the pressure or effect on the shooter , it's the recoil on 100 year old wood that's important.

Modern 20 g I use 7/8 oz loads that suit the gun and game.

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Point taken, Boats. Three-fourths ounce is probably plenty for the clay birds that are usually set for a 20 ga. event at a sporting clays shoot. Seldom is there a presentation over 30 yards at those. I agree that recoil is important on some of these vintage guns.

My apology if I sounded dogmatic. I admit I shoot clays to win, not to hear a gun go bang. And, I shoot game to kill as high a ratio of shots to bag, with the gun at hand, as possible. I tend to use equipment that facilitates that as best I can. I need to be more understanding of those who have other, equally important, objectives.

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Stan no offense taken, different perspective is always useful. Honest most of my shotgun shooting is Clays or Dog training with planted birds which is quite different from real hunting.

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Not to beat a dead horse but

One of the reasons Vintage SxS shooters get away with light shot loads is tight chokes. My 20 G Trojan is very tight and delivers good pellet density with light loads to 30 yards, dense patterns not wide patterns. If it was more open would need to go to either more shot or smaller pellet size to get adequate density for clay targets.

Real test is on the pattern board, let the gun tell you what it needs.

Boats

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