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goddamn, Larry, that's impressive. But did you know Jackie O or Martin King? Sorry King! I couldn't resist!

My military career is rather less impressive and quit frankly, I'm amazed I managed to stay out of the brig all these years.


Somewhere, a condor is crying.



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It is an impressive record. There have been at least two other impressive member MI practitioners whom I have corresponded with over the years---no longer here.

If you're interested in that kind of work google Canada's defence minister Harjit Sajjan, a Sikh, considered one of the best allied intelligence assets in Afghanistan:

"Sajjan�s intelligence-gathering and analytic skills soon attracted the attention of senior U.S. military and strategic advisors. His opinion letter concerning the Taliban, local warlords and the Afghan opium trade was appended in full in a major 2008 report on U.S. anti-narcotic strategies by Barnet Rubin, senior advisor to the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan. In both 2006 and 2009 Sajjan came under enemy fire, saw open combat and coped with dead and wounded soldiers.

Following Sajjan's second deployment in 2009, U.S. Major-General James Terry, Commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan�s southern provinces, requested that he join the U.S. Command Team for a third deployment 2010, where he served as Special Assistant to General Terry."

"If you're interested in that kind of work..."

Kingsley, I'm interested in women, cars, guns, alcohol, tobacco, food, books, music, golf, hockey, architecture (I'm a mid-century mod Mies, Eames kinda guy) and a bunch of other stuff, and don't give a 🐀's arse about some Sikh intel guru, God bless him.

Who do you like, Bernie or Hill?


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I find condors dreadfully boring.

Bernie but it's Hill.

Darned impressive guy, King. With CIA, I served with two complete rotations in the Defense Attache's office. Without question, the best intelligence officer of the bunch was an Army Attache who spoke fluent Arabic. Eventually converted to Islam. My boss, the CIA chief of station, was impressed by his reports--and he was not an easy guy to impress.

In the intel business, it's really bad if you do sloppy analysis. People can die. And you have to be willing to give bad news to the higher-ups. Those unwilling to speak their minds to power don't belong.

In the hunting business, it's really bad if you do sloppy analysis.

Sorry Larry, I couldn't resist. While not life not life and death, all hunters face real problems. I agree with our friend King here, thank you for your service. But, I think he's the fellow that typed something about the very near end to hunting in his brave new world.

Does it matter which socialist bas'turd he likes ?

Well, jOe, my in depth analysis of the question posed says absolutely not. *disclaimer* no actual analysis was done-I flipped a coin and it came up NO.

Mr. Sajjan's impressive conclusion on ISIS--blame the last guys. And climate change.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/harjit-sajjan-defence-isis-comments-1.3431806

edit: not sure of his position on the condor issue. add tag line.


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C'mon, Joe! Don't like Iowans? Forty-three percent of Iowans said they think of themselves as socialists, according to a Des Moines Register poll last month. S'pose it's the condors? (To keep on thread)

I don't see the end of hunting in my "brave new world" vision, nor even in what's likely to be my son's brave new world. However, when the decision was made to go nontox only for waterfowl, there was the very real possibility of facing the end of waterfowling if the change hadn't been made. And that was 25 years ago. That's how well-accepted the evidence was. Considering that everyone also knew that lead shot is far superior, ballistically, to steel, it's hard to believe the switch was made based on junk science.

Other types of hunting face different challenges today. And in places where there is a very low % of hunters (like CA), the threat to hunting increases significantly. Throw in the general anti-gun attitude of many nonhunters and nonshooters . . . The shooting program at Simpson College in Indianola, Iowa is currently under attack. Some alum who's an ER doctor in a big city talks about having seen the results of gun violence. Not sure what that has to do with kids shooting clay targets with shotguns, which is a far safer sport than just about anything involving a ball. And the guns they're using are hardly ever the type involved in crimes. But the anti-gun folks never seem to pay much attention to such details.