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Thanks guys! I've got a BPS 28 that he has been using but lately he's been eyeing the doubles. The SKB is a nice looking gun, maybe a little too nice. I'm thinking something more utilitarian. I think we might have to check a Winchester 24, there's one here at a local store it's pretty beat and priced a little too high but if it fits I'll have to be on the look out for one!
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That Win 24 may be the only double gun that catches more crap than the 311  !
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I would much prefer to load a "Big Hole Gun" down than a "Little Hole Gun" up. I really prefer not to do either. I like a .410 for very light loads, 11/16 oz. and under, a 20 for 7/8 oz. loads, a 16 or a 12 for 1 oz. loads, and a 12 for everything above that. SRH Stan; I was not really trying to sway anyone's opinion here just stating mine. for the type of hunting I always did I generally found I did my best shooting with guns approaching a weight of 7 lbs. "IF" I am going to carry a 7lb gun I can comfortably shoot anything up to 1� oz, though most of the time my loads hovered around 1 oz. Within these parameters I would prefer a 12ga in standard chambering rather than a 3" 20ga. The "Hardware" store 20ga that I said I traded off on this account was of course suitable only for loads up to 1 oz. With a 7lb gun why limit myself. Of course in relation to the "Hole" size 11/16oz in a .410 is an exceedingly heavy load. Based on bore capacities being proportionate to the square of their diameters the 11/16oz in a .410 is proportional to 1 9/16oz in a 20 or 2 3/16 in a 12. A .410 load proportionate to a 1oz 20 would be about 7/16 oz which would be just a bit lighter than 1 3/8oz in a 12. Anything beyond a half ounce just doesn't make sense to be in a .410.
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Yeah I've read the negative press on the 24, but in all reality how bad is it really,the extractors suck and the shape and appearance look different than any other gun out there, aside from that, well? I know it's not a model 21 or 23, it's a get dirty and drag through the field farm gun. Perfect for a youngster. We'll see what he likes as much as I would love to pick it for him, I'll just pick out his options and he can choose.
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RA:
There are a host of sub-$1000 European shotguns out there you ought also to consider. Not necessarily everywhere, but available. For example, Antonio Zoli made a sxs that Dakin Arms imported in the 1960s. They turn up from time to time at gun shows. Beretta had a sxs in the same era. The GR2 (double triggers, extractors, splinter forend, POW grip) should also be under $1000. Likewise, some of the no-name German or Belgian guild guns.
Just a thought.
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I would much prefer to load a "Big Hole Gun" down than a "Little Hole Gun" up. I really prefer not to do either. I like a .410 for very light loads, 11/16 oz. and under, a 20 for 7/8 oz. loads, a 16 or a 12 for 1 oz. loads, and a 12 for everything above that. SRH Stan; I was not really trying to sway anyone's opinion here just stating mine. for the type of hunting I always did I generally found I did my best shooting with guns approaching a weight of 7 lbs. "IF" I am going to carry a 7lb gun I can comfortably shoot anything up to 1� oz, though most of the time my loads hovered around 1 oz. Within these parameters I would prefer a 12ga in standard chambering rather than a 3" 20ga. The "Hardware" store 20ga that I said I traded off on this account was of course suitable only for loads up to 1 oz. With a 7lb gun why limit myself. Of course in relation to the "Hole" size 11/16oz in a .410 is an exceedingly heavy load. Based on bore capacities being proportionate to the square of their diameters the 11/16oz in a .410 is proportional to 1 9/16oz in a 20 or 2 3/16 in a 12. A .410 load proportionate to a 1oz 20 would be about 7/16 oz which would be just a bit lighter than 1 3/8oz in a 12. Anything beyond a half ounce just doesn't make sense to be in a .410. I understood that, Miller. No issues with your feeling that way at all. Just stating my preferences as well. All my best, SRH
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The GR2 (double triggers, extractors, splinter forend, POW grip) should also be under $1000. Or the Charles Daly version of that same gun. American name, Italian SxS. What could be better?
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I have a Hunter 28" 20 ga I'd part with.
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