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Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? #427975 11/29/15 04:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,593 Likes: 9 Central Pennsylvania Utah Shotgunner OP Sidelock
OP Utah Shotgunner Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,593 Likes: 9 Central Pennsylvania	I am trying to determine if the forend and buttstock on this 1938-39 Model 12 are a factory item. The buttstock shaping appears correct, and the uncut wood is curved under the pad. This seems correct for an original buttplate. The forend on the other hand is unlike any I have handled. In your opinion, is it factory or aftermarket? Mike

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? Utah Shotgunner #427976 11/29/15 04:35 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,536 Likes: 170 Amarillo, Texas skeettx Sidelock
skeettx Sidelock Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,536 Likes: 170 Amarillo, Texas	Looks to me like a Sile Stock and forearm Mike http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=516972712#PIC http://www.gunauction.com/buy/9427048/gu...odel-12-forearm Last edited by skeettx; 11/29/15 04:37 PM. USAF RET 1971-95

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? Utah Shotgunner #427981 11/29/15 04:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,593 Likes: 9 Central Pennsylvania Utah Shotgunner OP Sidelock
OP Utah Shotgunner Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,593 Likes: 9 Central Pennsylvania	skeettx, Very similar. Could be it. Checkering patterns are a bit different, and the checkering quality is better on the gun. Thanks! Mike

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? skeettx #427986 11/29/15 05:35 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 Michigan Run With The Fox Sidelock
Run With The Fox Sidelock Joined: May 2008 Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 Michigan	Originally Posted By: skeettx Looks to me like a Sile Stock and forearmI agree-and also, the pad job is most certainly not WRA factory or custom shop pre-WW2work- the bottom toe out of the red pad does not follow the toe line of the wood- it veers off at some Fubared angle-not correct, or aesthetically pleasing- Mike http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=516972712#PIC http://www.gunauction.com/buy/9427048/gu...odel-12-forearm "The field is the touchstone of the man"..

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? Utah Shotgunner #427998 11/29/15 07:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,593 Likes: 9 Central Pennsylvania Utah Shotgunner OP Sidelock
OP Utah Shotgunner Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,593 Likes: 9 Central Pennsylvania	Agreed, not asking about the poorly installed pad. It is clearly not original. My comment was only that the wood under the pad had not been cut. Mike

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? Utah Shotgunner #427999 11/29/15 07:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,983 Likes: 106 United States Buzz Sidelock
Buzz Sidelock Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,983 Likes: 106 United States	Forearm is clearly not original. The stocks on that vintage usually were not checkered. I'm guessing it isn't original. Socialism is almost the worst.

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? Buzz #428015 11/30/15 09:57 AM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,144 Likes: 202 Maryland eightbore Sidelock
eightbore Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,144 Likes: 202 Maryland	The buttstock could be an an original postwar or very late prewar field grade stock with aftermarket checkering, or the stock could be aftermarket. Either way it is not original to this gun in its present configuration.

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? eightbore #428057 11/30/15 05:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe Sidelock
HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	The butt stock looks awful clean to be original to a gun that old....I assume the gun has been re-blued ?

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? Utah Shotgunner #428147 12/01/15 04:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe Sidelock
HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,456 Likes: 86 The Great State of Tennessee	Is this an original Winchester forearm and butt stock ?

Re: Question: Win. Model 12 Stock & Forend - Factory?? Utah Shotgunner #428150 12/01/15 05:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,144 Likes: 202 Maryland eightbore Sidelock
eightbore Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,144 Likes: 202 Maryland	What is the serial number? That has some importance to the answer to Joe's question. It is a difficult question.

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