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Fear of guns? You seem to be of the mind that the US is a gun loving culture, now there is a fear of guns? There is also no gravitation to cities, people are still fleeing them.

The liberals are using the education system to inculcate their dogma in the minds of our children and grandchildren and it is up to us to undo this whenever possible by teaching and demonstrating the values that make this country great.

I checked this thread when I saw that King had returned to it with the mistaken idea that perhaps he had an answer for my previous question to him.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Fear of guns is part of it....

I think Jim's right. I doubt the folks that're engineering your transition of society fear much at all. They pick and choose where to insert or deemphasize fear into the 'conversation'. But hey, it works, eh.

I wonder how much 'fear' would rear it's ugly head if a president took his pen and wrote down on a cocktail napkin, any school that wants federal funding has to have a mandatory two years of small bore riflery classes between say 7th and 12th grade, and start a team if three or more kids at a school expresses interest. Important question to you, on what ideological grounds would a gay rights or climate change group have to oppose my idea, which is aimed at promoting womens reproductive rights and immigration turnstiles?

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Social engineering is something everyone has a hand in, Craig. I don't understand the second part of your questions. On the first, thoughts that tripped through my liberal head were (a) better to put the time and money on the three Rs, (b) Sergeant York was a rarity among infantry as a marksman who would pull the trigger to kill in his sights, and (3) consequently there seems little place for marksmanship in modern warfare. I considered the question in terms of value to the country. Little militarily, and kids won't shoot Bambi.

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Yes craig, that's a typical Lib response coming from an empty Liberal head. We spend more on education per pupil than any nation on earth, and King's knee-jerk response is to piss more money down the NEA rathole.

Coming from the tail end of the days where schools had indoor rifle ranges and rifle clubs and teams, I can tell you the emphasis was not on becoming the next Sergeant York or the best killer in the next illegal Republican war. It was first, about safe gun handling, and then learning technique to become your personal best. The NRA Certified Range Instructors took an absolute zero tolerance attitude concerning safety, and they were all too willing to study your hold and position in order to increase your scores and help you advance through the various Marksmanship rankings. They knew how to fan the flames of what would become a lifelong interest. For me, it was also the start of continuous membership in the NRA, and the beginning of an awareness that Gun Rights are threatened and need to be protected.

Contrast that with King who repeatedly tells us that all is lost and the shooting sports will be all but history in a generation or so. He just told you that shooting by youth has no value to a country. Kids won't shoot Bambi when all they have for a mentor and an example is a committed anti-gun Liberal Socialist. From my vantage point, kids still can't wait to come of age and get their first hunting license. Give them a .22 and a brick of ammo, and they will happily shoot until it's all gone. The biggest impediment I've seen is poor game management that resulted in less game to hold a young kids' interest all day on a cold deer stand. Freezing your tail off all day and being happy just to have been out there is an acquired taste.

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The roots I'm comfortable with are the radical---"to get to the root of"---and that's Jesus's teaching. The shame is how far the Christian community has drifted from it. We act irrationally from fear when the Christian message is to fear not, even death itself.We call ourselves Christian nations and stockpile ammunition, need concealed carry to protect ourselves and a regulated militia without regulations to protect us from our own governments, abandoning Jesus's teaching to defend it.



Naysayers, doomsayers, and closet anti-gunners and supporters of anti-gun politicians like King Brown... who dishonestly invoke Jesus' teaching as a way to undermine gun rights are no help to us. They are no friend to us.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Social engineering is something everyone has a hand in....

....(a) better to put the time and money on the three Rs....

Disappointing King. If the dems haven't had to put any funding into the 3 R's for decades, why would the Republicans? Please don't get off track, this subject at hand is for women and the climate.

By the way, what better way for a tatted up inner city gang banger to turn around their life, then to learn safe gun handling, turn out to be a half way decent shot, and run a drone for the military. It fits the mantra, eh.

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I gave first thoughts on reading your post, Craig, and have no quarrel with any structured activity that teaches responsibility, sportsmanship, provides a sense of belonging to and being a part of school or country.

It doesn't have to be one or the other: teaching responsibility and how to shoot and learning to read with comprehension from classics, manuals, microfiche, catalogues required to open so many other avenues.

Taking Grade 12 in the province's largest high school, I spent every Friday afternoon the cadet rifle team in indoor .22 rifle ranges and some Saturdays on the 500-yard outdoor range with .303 Lee-Enfields.

Cadets competed in the city-wide Friday night Garrison League competitions with army and navy, RCMP and city police, and annually in the Earl Roberts Memorial Shoot for British Commonwealth cadets.


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Why don't I believe King's tale about the cadet rifle team? Maybe it's that "craft of Journalism" wording... "I spent every Friday afternoon the cadet rifle team indoor .22 range... etc." Or maybe it was the one day per week of rifle team practice that sounds fishy. Maybe it is due to the self-centered braggart King speaking of "cadets" rather than he himself as is usually the case.

No matter though. We're all used to King's bullshit and lies. We're used to him being able to deny his own words. I doubt if it was the instructors on the Cadet Rifle team who taught King to support anti-gun politicians and to become an atheist who dishonestly uses Jesus to criticize gun rights, self defense, and concealed carry:

Originally Posted By: King Brown
The roots I'm comfortable with are the radical---"to get to the root of"---and that's Jesus's teaching. The shame is how far the Christian community has drifted from it. We act irrationally from fear when the Christian message is to fear not, even death itself.We call ourselves Christian nations and stockpile ammunition, need concealed carry to protect ourselves and a regulated militia without regulations to protect us from our own governments, abandoning Jesus's teaching to defend it.


King, you are like a skunk with after shave lotion. You can't hide your anti-gun taint.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Members will have noted the little fella's new reference to my alleged anti-gun position, a "taint," a trace, claiming I'm an anti-gunner but not forthcoming with the evidence he promised to produce, particularly a couple juicy ones he said he was holding back a week or so ago.

A distinguishing mark of obsessives is delusional preoccupation with persons or things i.e proclaiming on this thread that's he's protecting members from me---he's actually slain the dragon, "mission accomplished," he says--- not realizing 50,000-plus views of an obsessive's crusade are about him.

Obsessives are so fixed in their ideas that he couldn't imagine me in one of Canada's hundreds of cadet corps, attached to infantry and armoured regiments, spending Friday afternoons in full dress from berets to gaiters doing what soldiers do, or meeting leaders covering the world as a reporter for Canada.

I don't know what makes obsessives that way. I can't imagine members fretting what I think one way or another. I doubt envy or jealousy enters into it. Fifty-thousand-views of his crusade illustrates a surpassing curiosity in the irrationality of his social undertakings. A pity, but that's the way he is.








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Yes, Jim H, on the evidence Americans love their guns as Canadian love their hockey. Both fear the consequences of how guns are used and how hockey is played because of unwarranted violence. Changes to mitigate the violence affect gun owners and fans, not always positively.

My view of liberals and conservatives in this respect is both have the same concerns for their country and their shooting sports; both are teaching and demonstrating values that make our countries great. My conservative and liberal friends are of one mind: finding better ways to rid ourselves of fear mongers.

I don't want you to feel I neglect your questions. Please post it again and I'll do my best to answer it, Jim.

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King, you know what my question is, read back through this thread to refresh your memory.

You very conveniently paused in your responses to this thread in hopes I would go away. I have not and I and others are eagerly awaiting your answer.


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