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Your opinion of US current affairs is valid, Jim. The only strong variance to mine is of Obama's legacy, which we'll wait for years to be adjudicated by others of higher standards than ours. Or lower if we're seeing later generation arbiters in the conspicuous US youthful support for Sanders and the newly elected UK Labour leader---both strong socialists. They aren't accepting quietly the inequality and rule of billionaires pushing them to the margins. What you and I think now won't have a speck of influence. Thanks sincerely for your thoughts.

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What exactly do you see as "Obama's Legacy"? What has he accomplished as an individual, not what a compliant congress pushed through counter to the country's wishes.

What you see as a valid opinion of current afairs is the direct result of Obama's regime.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....It's your way of looking at a country so fed up with its Washington governance anything would be an improvement....

....Your undeclared racial civil war....

....Your view of a Democrat not protecting your gun rights is common....When did you start trusting only Republican politicians?....

....Gun rights are a minefield where any politician moves at her peril. The president's last 21 Executive Orders on gun control hardly got a mention here---if one, at all....

Hmmm, never did mention I was fed up with dc governance. Many times I've mentioned 'your colleagues', but I'd expect the typical brush off. pc world is not just a magazine any more, it's the inability to vet candidates or question decision makers. But, I recognize that the tactic works, Senate majority leader Lott wishes Sen. Strom happy birthday and he's booted under the media storm. Sen. reid would top any of your most vile misfire attributes with not only less wimper than the infamous 21, but rock steady support.

It ain't my racial war, it comes from the mouth of the prez and his atgens, not by slip of the tongue, but intentionally hundreds upon hundreds of times. Your vague and undefined debt to slavery is convenient for ideology, but clearly the debt is intentionally unpaid otherwise its value is lost.

I have my laundry list of national and international issues that go well beyond gun rights. What I can mention with very high confidence is that it's not based on a pigeonholed stereotype. Maybe my thought is common, maybe not, but there're clearly written dem platforms and alliances, including funding and media support, with anti groups. It's not mistaken or perceived.

I've never mentioned anything about trusting R's. What I believe I am clear about is that I have never seen evidence that the R's are willing to attempt let alone execute the degree of ideological social engineering that secular libs envision, pursue and unilaterally impose. Negative polling has never taken the edge off your reliable support or dampened the enthusiasm of a small handful of left wing political decision makers.

As to political minefields, when has the current pres had to walk one. The press is responsible for laying the field, their sense of responsibility has been to the campaign and lobby of dems. You know bo is doing his duty on gun control just as with many other social changes. He's creating the new normal, defining the boldness and teaching our kids. I'm sure at least some on the left can anticipate the path of wearing 'em down. bo'll wait for a clear front runner, first to lobby for, then to coordinate with on for lame duck gun control issues. If it fits with the new candidate, it'll happen sooner, if not we'll see multiples of your 21, after the election regardless of the result. Wanna bet?

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I'm not picky about your opinion, Jim. Current US affairs is a consequence of what happened during two terms Americans wanted him as president. Majorities represent the country's wishes.

Americans should not be indifferent to electing and re-electing a black over the best the opposition had to offer barely 50 years after whites were conceding blacks were humans with a right to vote.

A majority of Americans supported twice his domestic and foreign affairs platforms of healthcare and bringing troops home from the region the US was defeated and destabilized.

The American people allowed Obama to change America's face to the world from pariah to its temperate and generous roots, and to choose Keynes over cuts to lead the world out of the great recession.

Congress, compliant or activist, is America's legislative body. America allowed the president to carry out his mandate under extremely difficult social, economic and political restraints. He's adding to his legacy now in trade and positioning for patient and wily China.

It's splitting hairs to say his stewardship was the result of a compliant Congress. A majority of Americans gave him the authority to do what he said he would do. He did well for America compared to Bush and Clinton under rosier conditions.








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King, the constitution grant no rights those are given by our creator,it limits the govt.the constitution protects individual liberties and that is the key the second like all the others, ,protect individual liberties.no matter what any interpretation is the facts arethe facts .un fortunately i think the last pres election was a referendum on Romney rather than the failed obamma administration,foreign policy is a disaster,economic policy is a disaster,heath care solved nothing,30 million still uninsured.if you think obamma is in the top three you must be using canadian leaders as your comparison and that doesn't work except for you

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King why don't you use an aluminum 80 very light more reserve.that's what i use and once you hit the water what difference does it make.

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Don't dodge my question with vague references to how Obama managed the electorate to achieve two terms. You said that he would be in the top third of presidents, now piling on his legacy. What exactly is this legacy you speak of.


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I think you're right about Romney---that totally unexpected at a critical point in the campaign brings even good ones down.

The top third, not three, shouldn't be a big deal, mc. American or Canadian, a lot of our prime ministers and your presidents were, relatively, duds.

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Agree about once hitting the water. It's lugging 72s to and from my boat. Had to condemn my steel 50 and the 50 aluminum is a big improvement.

Whoever said old age is the golden years must have been smoking dope!

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Managing the electorate is what all politicians do. There's nothing vague about his social and overseas actions changing the world's perception of the US from pariah to positive force in the world.

My response was intended to show hope and change weren't empty words---hope being the expectation of something better. America's reputation and influence is seen more positively by the world as a result of his stewardship.

It's no small thing that the US isn't spilling blood and treasure with nothing to show for it. America voted against foreign adventures. Public opinion said bring the troops home. There will be no more arbitrary invasions.

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