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I'm sending John a Christmas card this year, just to stay in touch and make him feel I appreciate him.

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We made 15% on a spec house. So, on an average 3 br modern, $20-25K We know you are only likely to buy one. We can spend a few days working with you. We can give incentives to move forward.
I doubt the average firearms sale has anything like that gross. If anything, the internet, and auction result compilations, have taken the margins way below 10%.
So, a business owner that has many leads to follow up on has only so much time to spend in conversion.

If you are a price sensitive shopper that has sent me numerous emails that have gone no where, Why would I waste my time trying to make $150.00 on a sale to you, when from the beginning I already know the odds are low, the effort high, you want me to lose money on it if possible (so you can brag on internet forums about your great negotiating prowess), and it's doubtful you'll ever buy anything else without all the rigamarole in the future?
Remember, these horses have already come to the trough on a few earlier occasions. Their patterns are known.

While I would never have started a thread like this one, and I have no clue who John is, on principle and experience, I am in John's corner.


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Originally Posted By: ClapperZapper
....have taken the margins way below 10%....

....If you are a price sensitive shopper that has sent me numerous emails that have gone no where, Why would I waste my time trying....

....Remember, these horses have already come to the trough on a few earlier occasions. Their patterns are known....

....on principle and experience, I am in John's corner.

CZ, I wouldn't be surprised if you sold a bunch more houses than the good/best gun market can sustain, but I'd bet the gross profit margin is quite a bit higher than 10% on gun sales. They probably just don't sell like hot cakes.

John's got a point, but you yourself just said you're willing to exchange 'numerous emails' before you make your business decision. Some markets even make contractors more service oriented. Some folks just have a different way of looking at it.

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In the store I worked in profit margin on new guns was under 10%, used guns 30-40%. The store made money by selling ammo and accessories not new guns.


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I will look forward to receiving it
I expect to received by mail so we do not have to add you to the "professional talkers club"

The list is getting pretty full, not sure if any openings
Need to check

Have a great Christmas!

John


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Generally, when I make an inquiry, and at that time, I'm interested in what I'm asking about... enough, that if I get the right answers I'm going to buy it on the spot. In many cases, dealers take a week or so to get back to you and I lose interest. This has happened to me quite a few times and quite a few dealers have lost a lot of opportunity with regards to a purchase.

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John I agree I am a retailer and it's frustrating sometimes but.I had a lady spend an hour and a half trying to pick out a $60 gift.I consider myself a fairly decent salesman in my area but I finally sat down.I wanted to tell her look I'll pick out and pay for if if you would leave...but my better judgment changed my mind.
When I had a lot of extra money I always told the dealer I was a tire kicker but wanted the info on a gun.The ones that were lazy and didn't want to give me the info or that were real slow I generally passed.
I like what Clapper Zapper said it just like fishing .
Monty

PS and by the way if you think men are tough start dealing with women..


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Have the Turkish imports taken the knees out on the Spanish import gun dealers?

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