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And neither of my shotguns are of Darne action. Mike
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Ah yes, Didier Drevet, DD surmounted by a Crown in an oval. Permit me to rephrase, do you have knowledge of any other Didier Drevet tubesets with serialization? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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I do not, perhaps others here??
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Here's another from 1908: 1908.12740 - Didier Drevet - Etablissements Didier-Drevet Eureka Modele Depose Canon Plume - Patent for d'Eureka-Canon-Plume, Oct 10, 1899 for DD at 5 & 11 rue Villeboeuf, St. Etienne http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=193705Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Lifted this little gem of a post card from 1917. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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"Le canon Plume : 8 - En 1855, Pierre Didier Drevet, maître canonnier stéphanois remporte la médaille d'or lors de l'Exposition Universelle de Paris pour la confection d'un canon en Damas exceptionnel ; un siècle plus tard, la maison existe toujours et se distingue par un canon ultra-léger, sans bande, où les deux tubes sont réunis au moyen d'une cale unique (brevet déposé le 10 octobre 1899, par les Etablissements Didier-Drevet) se terminant à zéro près des assemblages, le tout brasé. Excédent de bande arrondi et dont l'extrémité, à cinq centimètres du tonnerre, se termine en forme de "bec d'aigle".Ce modèle baptisé "Plume-Euréka", par l'absence de bandes, est un canon extrêment léger qui, cependant demeure plus épais aux endroits essentiels et présente des tubes parfaitement ronds sur toute leur surface ; le guidon d'une conception très spéciale est noyé à l'extrémité des deux tubes, se trouvant sensiblement plus bas que la visière, ce qui fait automatiquement donner un coup haut. D'autres canonniers stéphanois vont exceller dans la construction de ce type de canon, la Maison Fanget en particulier, produit qui équipera et fera apprécier, dans la première moitié du XXe siècle, des armes de chasse allégées et belles grâce à cette particularité : le canon "plume"." http://gravure.blog.fr/2011/03/28/la-fabrication-des-canons-a-saint-etienne-suite-10904999/I don't see the term Mandrine right off but interesting to locate Diamant Vercar. So the tubes on the subject sporting weapon might be a predecessor to the Canon Plume patent making them manufactured prior to 1899 & knitted in 1900?? Ted, I'm assuming these tubes/wand is feather-weight-esk? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Raimey, The stamp from Didier is identicle in the photos posted above. That said, these barrels feature a regular, non plume rib WITH an under rib. Further, the barrels have a pretty heavy wall. I was surprised as the gun is close to 7 lbs, and, as I posted already, seems to have suffered having a mount for use as a punt gun installed near the point of balance. The right tube is marked with the typical "Non Pour le Balle" warning that went on guns with a tight choke. I have seen a few older Darne models with the same tube sets, but, those guns always have had a stamp as to grade, either the typical circle with the word "Darne" in the middle of it, or, the much older little star like stamps, with the same, "count and add ten" to get the grade of the gun. I've seen far more guns proofed with powder J or S than powder M, just an anecdotal observation. Somewhere between 1900 and the new patent R model of 1909, mono block barrels started becoming the typical barrels encountered on Darne products, except the Halifax model, which, was always a brazed barrel gun.
Best, Ted
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Perhaps the nicest French gun I've ever owned was a sideplated boxlock 16 by Drevet. I was not as into proofmarks etc back then as I am now, so I can't recall the DD with a crown. As best I can recall, it was marked "Drevet a Chateauroux".
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Lifted another Didier-Drevet Advert which is from 1911 Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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YUP, sweet barrels
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