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Ted: In the FWIW column, I saw one of these toggle action Darnes (Bruchet?) guns on an episode of Midsomer Murders on Netflix last night. It made two appearances, first in the ambush murder of the Lord of the Estate's wife during a driven shoot, and then later as the instrument used by the guilty parties to execute a murder/suicide pact. It struck me as telling that this British program didn't use an "English" gun to perform these foul deeds. The gun was very clearly shown, with the action being operated to load it, just so there was no confusion with anything produced in Merry Old England.
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Interesting gun, Ted--but I can't add anything other than the clues you guys have picked up on. Acier Mandrine . . . so made from orange squeezings? 
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Lloyd,
I have heard that a few of the US helicopter pilots in Viet Nam cut the butt stock and barrels from Darnes obtained locally, to use as "last ditch" type weapons. I've been told the story more than once over the years, and being that 'Nam was a French colony, a Darne might have been more frequently encountered than any thing else.
Jihadi John is a product of England, it would seem to me that the English have more important things to worry about than what country produced a TV murder weapon.
Best,
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I wonder where WildCattle is roaming about? He should have stampeded thru this thread by now?
Any chance the Fon RTEE S.G.D.G. is Fon Bte S.G.D.G.with some odd BTE overstamp with an extra E??? It appears that there were some additional marks that have been worked off the tubeset.
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I wonder where WildCattle is roaming about? He should have stampeded thru this thread by now?
Any chance the Fon RTEE S.G.D.G. is Fon Bte S.G.D.G.with some odd BTE overstamp with an extra E??? It appears that there were some additional marks that have been worked off the tubeset.
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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Wildcattle was last here on the 20th, I hope he is enjoying a warm vacation somewhere. The marks you asked about are very clear, and what appears to be marks that are rubbed off are boat rash and the typical things you see on a 100+ year old gun. I will try to get a better photo up tomorrow. Most of the marks are pretty clear considering the age of the gun, and the condition of the rest of it, which, is the commonly seen "rode hard, and put up wet". This example, has bad gunsmithing, to boot. It is an unfortunate fact that a guy who is well qualified to pull down and repair a SLE, may be well over his head with a sliding breech, of any design. Best, Ted
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Can not tell you but here it is   Mike
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 Indeed, seems as if it was defaced? Is the other cheek any better. For sure, your tubeset was completed in 1918. Any hard info to indicate otherwise? We may be on the cusp of stating that Didier Drevet serialized his tubesets akin to what L. Bernard commenced(Did L. Bernard surpass 14k tubesets?). Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Another of my French guns, so I am guessing it is a manufacturer stamp.  
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Possibly Marsot's liability stamp? Know any other Darne types with Didier Drevet tubesets?
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