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AYA ribs are welded, not soldered; will the barrels ring as soldered ones do?
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Whether soldered or brazed or welded, so long as they are fused to the barrels they will "ring"
Too much emphasis is put on this ringing. Most soldered barrels are not 100% soldered the whole length and they still ring. If you want to know for sure, take a.002 shim and slide it down both sides of the ribs top and bottom and see how many places it fits. Yet these barrels will ring.
It is the ribs that are away from the barrel and won't ring as well, you will get a dull sound.
This ringing is similar to thumping a watermelon to see if it is ripe.
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But isn't it fun to tap a barrel and hear it ring like the finest crystal! Barrel ringing is a good preliminary test but falls way short of being definitive.
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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Certainly not the definitive answer. However, if you get a thud or a buzz (vibration), that gives you a hint something may be amiss.
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I've heard them ring like a bell and be loose...
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A barrel set that doesn't ring may be caused by the presence of the extractors, not lose ribs. Drop out the extractor(s) and they sometimes ring beautifully.
I agree that ringing barrels are rarely a sign that the ribs are 100% good.
The only sure way to check the ribs for bleeds/looseness is to drop them in a tank of boiling water and watch the strings of bubble appear.
Of the guns I have in for restoration, I doubt that 1 in 5 have perfect ribs but 4 out of 5 will ring just fine. Even fewer will be perfect after modern reproof and I now check ribs on arrival and after lapping and/or proof.
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The ones that ring but are bad make excellent wind chimes.
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Could non-ringing be an indication of rust?
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I would imagine if there was that much rust, they wouldn't ring, but then again, they would not be worth anything with that amount of rust on them.
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Of the guns I have in for restoration, I doubt that 1 in 5 have perfect ribs but 4 out of 5 will ring just fine. Even fewer will be perfect after modern reproof and I now check ribs on arrival and after lapping and/or proof.
Toby, are you saying that modern proof is so severe that it's breaking the ribs loose?
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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