doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Are these liberals you guys talking about?

Let's see, pistols are illegal to hunt with, but if you are discrete, you probably won't be bothered if you violate this law, but maybe you will be bothered, depending on the attitude of the mountie. Automatic weapons are legal, but if you have too many, they may be confiscated because you were "asking for it". As far as wardens go, you've never seen one. King, I think we should back up to square one if we are going to discuss gun rights. Nothing you said, my friend, makes any sense or has anything to do with gun rights.

I don't think I was discussing gun rights, Bill, only how your notion mirrored my experience with guns and the law where I live, in practise if not legally.

So, purely socialistic concept like the public library system is bad?

The library system was Capitalistic with the seed money coming from a rich "robber baron". And it still does. It provides the building and locals provide the books.

"Purely socialistic" Soviet libraries only carried books approved by the State. IMHO, that is bad.

King, I may be a little cocky on some points, but if the law says I can't do something with my gun, I'm not going to do it, regardless of how much the law enforcement community may ignore such violations. In this country, if you have anything like a gun violation on your record, no matter how minor, you are likely to be on the "do not sell" list for our Instant Check system. Such violations as well as domestic violence violations can not only get you on the bad list for Instant Check, you may become inelegible to own guns. We are not going to take any chances south of the border. As I mention what I think is a good system, almost anything is legal until you do something wrong. I wouldn't like to live under a system where you are presumed to be a problem as a gun owner before you make a mistake. Let's see, that would be U.K., Canada, Australia, Washington, D.C.,and I don't know the rest.

I've never thought of you as cocky, Bill. We're creatures of our experience. I registered all my guns when the long-gun registry was introduced and the government sent out workers to do all the paper work and even lick the stamp on the envelope. I didn't want any hassle either.

As far as gun owners being seen as a problem here, I don't know whether it would be much different from the States where a whole generation has grown up with a different slant from ours on killing wild things and guns. I do know certainly that there's far less resources allocated to regulatory observance and game protection.

My guess from what I've read in sporting magazines and seen on U.S. television is that the duck and geese hunting experience generally in Canada and particularly in my region of Nova Scotia provides surpassingly greater freedom and opportunities i.e. fewer hunters, less competition, no blind allocations etc.

I've never felt put upon by anyone. I'm as free today to roam with a double as I was starting out in my fishing village on the Atlantic Coast 65 years ago. I plan to take up an invitation from an Alberta member to hunt his favourite marshes and lakes, and I'll bet that his freedom to hunt hasn't been infringed any more than mine.

We are a different people, of course. We see the world differently. Our institutions, heritage, traditions are different. What Americans consider acceptable or preferable for their societies are not the same here. What some Americans feel is abhorrent may be what we voted for, rightly or wrongly, and vice versa.

Of course, we both can state what you did in your last paragraph. You just make it sound a little more benign than some do when they try to make the same point. I'm not much of a diplomat and don't usually make it sound so innocent. Thanks, King.

I am a U.S. citizen and live primarily in the U.S. However, I also own a home in Canada (on Vancouver Island). I spend quite a bit of time there. I must say that I very much like the Canadian "system" and the attitudes and social mores of the people.
When in Canada, my family has had excellent health care when necessary at very reasonable prices and without any waits or problems.
There is a very strong sense of freedom in Canada. In some ways the Canadians seem more expectant of individual freedom than U.S. citizens. Yet, the people feel a sociatial obligation to each other. Not a bad thing in my opinion.
Never tell a Canadian they are not free. In my experience, they are as protective of their personal freedom as any group I have ever met. Some of the government intrusions into personal privacy and freedom which our people apparently accept I do not believe would be too popular in Canada.
I love America and will fight for my rights here. However, I certainly don't think Canadians are deficiant in any way as a culture.
The word tolerant is very important in that culture. Tolerance is often in short supply in the U.S. I don't find that cultural tolerance to be a bad thing.
Regards, RCC

I find much to admire in our 'neighbors to the north,' and have enjoyed traveling across Canada from BC to NS. But I'd have more respect for them if they didn't punch so far below their weight in NATO, NORAD, etc. Few major nations spend less per capita on defense.

For far too long, crouching under the US defense umbrella has been a cheap and comfortable way for Canadians to be "protective of their personal freedom" - while leaving their 'neighbors to the south' to pick up the tab.