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After looking closer I found a marking 1g111 below was 36gGBP it was underlined and below the line is st m G
I used small case letters & caps as they were marked on the rifle barrel.
I also found nitro on the shotgun barrels.
On one of the shotgun barrels I found FLUSSSTAHL - KRUPP The first word may be misspelled as the markings are very light.
I am a novice at IDing markings.
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The 3,6GPB/StmG notes 3,6 grams of Gewehr Blättchenpulver(military flake powder) over steel metal jacketed bullet and was a stamp used from July 23rd, 1893 till the rules change in 1912 so the construction of the sporting weapon must have commenced say around 1911 & saw completion between 1912 & WWI.
Would like to see an image of the 1g1111 stamp.
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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Raimey, I think it's simply the serial Nummer 19111, see also on the forearm below left on the picture.....
What do you think?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
Last edited by Gunwolf; 02/01/15 09:35 AM.
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Wolfgang:
I believe you to be most correct, good eye. I'm thinking that the original platform to be that of F.W. Keßler's Selbstspannerdrilling System Tip-Top & then possibly some mechanic altered it to the client's whims.
I've looked & looked but where is the safety?
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Raimey
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I assume the term Sicher is in gold below the 2nd lever & above ocular & if so, then where is the selector?  Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Gentlemen, the selector that you have boxed controls the safety, when you move it to the left it raises the rear sight that is about 6 to 8 inches forward of the breech. there is a very small rod under the rib that is pushed by a pin. Who ever did this was a master craftsman for sure. It also engages the rear trigger to fire the rifle barrel. When you swing it to the right you can fire the shot gun barrels.
It also has a tang sight that can be raised, the small piece of the sight that can be elevated after the tang sight is raised is to only part missing.
Sorry I didn't mention the sights earlier.
The mark 1g111 is on the forearm and other places on the piece. the powder markings are right near this on the rifle barrel.
I will take some more pic today and also get some measurements.
When you look into the barrels from the breech end you can see there is no shoulder for the rifle but there could possibly be a taper that you cannot notice. I will try and get a depth measurement on both the rifle and shot gun barrels.
My friend did not land on D-Day but did fight till the end of the war. I hunted with him for many many years and he very very seldom talked about those times, then it was to talk about this piece or the wine he "liberated". His sister told me he was wounded more than once but he never ever talked about the fighting.
He passed several years ago and was a great guy to hunt with for not only me but my sons and daughter.
Forgot to say that the word sicher is inlaid right where the box you overlaid crosses the tang near the small selector and toward butt of the stock.
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 Ah hah. So a dual selector. So there's a rod in the doll's head well that pushes a rod in the lower part of the Greener crossbolt extension. I'd like to see the rod you mention in the frame. Note too that that the sideclips/wings are side tube extensions not frame extensions. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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The piece is very tight, in fact when you remove the barrels it takes a little patience to put it back together. There is no wiggle anywhere.
This is like Christmas for me, as a little more wrapping (info) unfolds my eyes brighten more.
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