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Access to images seems forbidden 403.
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Raimey, correct, I am registred on Guns.ru just like you and I have the same problem.
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Interesting that I, from Russia, can't access the images by clicking on the links above, but I can by copying them and posting in another window of my browther. So I think it's this site's engine that's blocking the pic, and you can access them by copypasting like I did.
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Thanks HD, I learned something new today! Browther? Do you speak English with a lithp? 
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Hehehe. Typo 
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If someone's saved these pictures I hope they will post them. I thought Breshvnev shot a break open auto, a Cosmi?...Geo
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This is an honest question.
How is the documented search for a stolen/confiscated WWII firearm, removed from it's original location, and brought back to the United States after the war, any different than the search for family heirlooms as prosecuted by the Jews?
Are there legal protections pertaining to firearms? Was there a settlement of some form in the articles of surrender?
This purely a legal question, as I live near a thriving German community, and the topic actually comes up every so often. Many families have documentation of family heirlooms lost to confiscation during and after thew war.
Is an ornate schutzen rifle treated differently than a silver tea service or a painting?
Out there doing it best I can.
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If someone's saved these pictures I hope they will post them. I thought Breshvnev shot a break open auto, A Cosmi?...Geo That was in SSM. I did not save the article, but folks at SSMBBS might be able to help. The gun was break open Semi-Auto by Cosmi. It belonged or LB or his wife.
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Brezhnev was a serious gun nut and hunter, and a hunting gun was an acceptable and appreciated gift among the Nomenklatura so he gave and received tons of guns. He was indeed reported to love the Cosmi, so much that TsKIB made a copy of it, but that doesn't mean he had and shot nothing else.
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This is an honest question.
How is the documented search for a stolen/confiscated WWII firearm, removed from it's original location, and brought back to the United States after the war, any different than the search for family heirlooms as prosecuted by the Jews?
Are there legal protections pertaining to firearms? Was there a settlement of some form in the articles of surrender?
This purely a legal question, as I live near a thriving German community, and the topic actually comes up every so often. Many families have documentation of family heirlooms lost to confiscation during and after thew war.
Is an ornate schutzen rifle treated differently than a silver tea service or a painting? At least two prerequisites must be met to get something back or be compensated: One must be on the winning side and articles would have to been stolen by the members of loosing side. Aggrieved group must be united and well represented on both domestic and international arena. I do not think the Germans have anything equivalent to Jewish World Congress.
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Looking forward to the pictures of Brezhnev's drilling.
I'd hate to be the guy dealing in bringbacks and not have legal protections for it.
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I used the original links/locations but inserted them in between [img] [/img] tags to display inside this post.
If you right click on one and select "view image" from the drop-down menus you can see a larger full-sized version for more detail.As Gilda Radner/Emily Lettel used to say on Saturday Night Live; "Never Mind". I was able to see embedded images in this reply on one computer but not able to see them on a near identically setup laptop. I HATE when that happens! That would seem to show that it has something to do with the security/popup settings on a particular computer. I also recall pictures & an article about Cosmi guns including Breznev. That appears to be a presentation plaque (19th December(?) 1975) on it. The Witten Excelsior barrels and markings seem to show that this gun was made long before that, perhaps roughly 1890-1920 (just a SWAG). Anyway, nice gun.   
Last edited by LeeS; 01/28/15 04:09 PM. Reason: Stuff happens in spite of best intentions, Go figure.
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because the jewish and other property wasnt banned by the winner to keep from getting shot.to bad they lost TS
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 Interesting selector  Bchsenmacher Otto Preussner - Haynau/Schlesien - Silesia  k  Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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ClapperZapper,
The firearms brought back after the war were illegal for Germans to have. They had to be turned in for destruction.If they had not been brought back to US as War Trophy Firearms, they would have been destroyed and gone anyway.
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One word of caution. The fact that this gun does feature a plate addressed to Brezhnev doesn't mean he actually owned the gun. Anyone can put on a plate. Brezhnev is so known as a gun nut that his provenance is the easiest to fake.
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