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I am looking at purchasing an early 12ga Winchester 21 double trigger extractor gun. The gun is marked CYL and MOD. I have only seen guns marked IC and MOD. Is it a true CYL choke or an IC choke marked CYL? Seller has no way to measure the chokes for me.
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I have found on my 21's that the markings on the barrel are exact to what the choke is marked on the barrel. I have a CYL. marked gun and the choke is a cyl. bore.
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By the way, I have a first year production dbl. trigger, extractor gun. It is a great gun. You won't regret it!
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It would be prudent to have the constriction in the modified side verfied.
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Cylinder bored Winchester 21s are not scarce in the pre war period. Cylinder bored guns are marked Cylinder. I agree with Orry, get the modified barrel measured. Modified Winchesters are lightly choked, but should have .012 or similar with a bore of .729 or .730.
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Coryreb, How do you like the cyl/mod set up? I have never had a cyl choked gun before and to be honest I dont know what to expect as far as patterns and performance on live game.
Orry/Eightbore, Thanks I will have the gun sent to Merrington for inspection if the deal goes through. Like I said I am still on the fence about the cyl choke.
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Once you've experienced a Cylinder choke, and I mean that you've given it a thorough testing on targets AND birds, you'll wonder why you never used it before.
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my serial #15299 I believe is marked mod/full and measures .010/.032. pattern boards are 30" circle at 40 yds, 7/8 oz of #8.  
Last edited by devrep; 05/08/07 01:27 PM.
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I have a straight stocked cyl/mod 16 bore M21 in the 5000 serial number range made in 1935. It's an ideal gun for any reasonble range on game birds and has functioned well in Montana and Uruguay. You'll love the versatility of these chokes.
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When the Model 21 was introduced to the trade in 1930, no standard variation included an improved cylinder choke. 12 and 16 gauge guns were available in 26" and 28", cylinder and modified. 20 gauge guns were available in 26" cylinder and modified. Your double trigger gun, if equipped with 28" barrels, was described as a stock number 2108 on the October 15, 1930 stock list. I'm not sure when the improved cylinder choke became standard to replace the cylinder. The cylinder was also standard on prewar Model 24 Winchesters.
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