May
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Who's Online Now
8 members (KDGJ, Gunning Bird, Borderbill, Lloyd3, Marks_21, 1 invisible), 363 guests, and 5 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics38,498
Posts545,430
Members14,414
Most Online1,344
Apr 29th, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,743
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,743
I for one am unconvinced that when the Wads hit a constriction they speed up. I bet if you put a close fitting wad in that bore & push it through as fast as you can with a rod that when it hits that dent you will feel a resistance, not an easing of the force require to keep it moving. I know this is the case in pushing a wad through a choke. A checking of the wad can cause a pressure spike the same as a checking of the shot charge.
The real question is whether a dent of only .005" is enough to cause trouble, but why find out unless you just don't mind sacrificing the barrels to do so.


Miller/TN
I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra
Dewey Vicknair
Unregistered
Dewey Vicknair
Unregistered

Originally Posted By: Rocketman
In a constriction velocity of the flow increases and pressure reduces.

DDA


Bernoulli's principle applies to fluids, not solids. A shot column traveling down the bore certainly does not fit the definition of inviscid flow.

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 128
Sidelock
*
Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 128
I'd fix it and then use low pressure shells.

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,954
Likes: 12
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,954
Likes: 12
Originally Posted By: Dewey Vicknair
Originally Posted By: Rocketman
In a constriction velocity of the flow increases and pressure reduces.

DDA


Bernoulli's principle applies to fluids, not solids. A shot column traveling down the bore certainly does not fit the definition of inviscid flow.


I am yet to read any good explanation of just exactly how a shot column acts: fluid, simi-fluid, something else?? It surely isn't a solid. As a group, not as individual pellets, shot will support only minimal shear force. So, it is very difficult to consider it not a fluid. It does react to a constriction much as a fluid when it encounters the choke constriction during "flow" within a barrel. If shot did not react to constrictions as a fluid, I think choke would not work. Putting choke in front of anything but a fluid would be a disaster, IMO.

DDA

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 820
Likes: 1
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 820
Likes: 1
Why not fix it ? Cheap fix!


monty
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 452
Sidelock
Offline
Sidelock

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 452
It could cause the rib to come loose, big bucks later compared to cheap repair now.

Boats

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,177
Likes: 43
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,177
Likes: 43
Personally I would have the dent lifted, but in the big picture I don't see a constriction of .005 at localized area any more of a danger than .035 or so (full choke) 4" further down the tube.


Dodging lions and wasting time.....
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,733
Likes: 52
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,733
Likes: 52
Being 4" from the muzzle, the pressure by the time it reaches there is down quite a bit, most of the pellets should still be in the wad and I don't see how anything like this could cause a loose rib or a blow-out.
Pattern it and see if there are many "flyers".

I agree to get it fixed and shooting lower pressure and velocity shells through it also.


David


Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 320
Likes: 4
WBLDon Offline OP
Sidelock
OP Offline
Sidelock

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 320
Likes: 4
Thanks for all the replies. I am looking into getting it repaired as the gun is too nice to leave it as it is...

Again Thank You to all that responded...

Have a Wonderful Day.

Don

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 364
Sidelock
*
Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 364
Get yerself a bunch of steel ball bearings that will just slide inside the barrel and fire 'em until the dent goes away. Yeah, that sounds about right. Why screw around with expensive middlemen with their fancy dent raisers and tiny hammers.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2024 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.062s Queries: 35 (0.040s) Memory: 0.8408 MB (Peak: 1.8988 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-05-03 18:57:37 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS