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I think that history will treat this gun well.

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Originally Posted By: cgr50
I think that history will treat this gun well.


Only as a tiny, insignificant footnote. It will matter not.
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I think the 486 is a nice concept and I'm happy to see Beretta introduce a SxS again. Just because it's "different" doesn't make it bad. I'd prefer a different style of engraving and double triggers, but all in all I like it. I wouldn't choose a 486 over a AH Fox, but I wouldn't turn one away either.


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RedOak, when I asked the associate if they were laser welded mono block, he said yes. So, maybe he is ill informed. I don't know. The 20 was pretty nice. I would have taken one home if they were handing out samples!!! I have a Fox Custom Upgrade in the works so I am doe for a while.


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Hi Brian,

Pretty sure there was a thread here about the Parallelo 486 and it's new Triblock barrel construction (w/photos), but I have not found it.

But it is sort like dovetail lump construction, but with additional flats that extend out under each tube.

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Brian,

Found the thread about he 486 Parallelo barrel construction, here is a link.

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=373602

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A friend of mine just bought a Beretta 410E online for about $1000. 12 gauge with 28 3/8" barrels, double triggers (front articulating), pistol grip and ejectors. It is an ejector gun with full coverage hand engraving of English scroll with bouquets of roses on the fences. The receiver is scalloped and rebated. I would much rather have this older, hand engraved gun than the new 486 at over $5K.
By the way, how much is the designer Newson 486?
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First there is NOT a snake on the gun, they are supposed to be the Chinese version of dragons. Chinese dragons~chinese pheasants.
I like the idea that Beretta got a top level world class designer to design a gun; it really reminds me of the very sleek Italian designs of, say, Bertuzzi on steroids. The thing reminds me of a Lamborghini; it looks like its going 200 MPH sitting at the curb.
That damn forend button is a real turn off, a latch would be much nicer.
The guy is now with Apple which means he is a world class designer of the very top rank. And of course us classic gun freaks tend to like, well classic designs.
Other than that I pretty much agree with Stan.

quote=Stan] A few thoughts on this new design.

I really like the departure from a top tang-mounted safety slide. I find the "island" look of the safety very attractive.

The shaping of the trigger guard is no accident, or afterthought. Viewing the profile, you can see the carryover of lines, complimenting each other. Look closely and you may notice that the forward curve of the bow blends perfectly with the lower rear curve of the receiver, and the rear curve of the guard perfectly matches the curve of the upper line of the rear of the receiver, and also that of the forward border of the wrist checkering. While I agree that the shape of the guard in and of itself is not attractive, there is method in the madness. It is part of a package.

They quit on the toplever too quickly. It stands out badly against a busy engraving pattern on the receiver. If it were mine I would definitely have it engraved in a complimentary style. Then, even though the shaping sucks, it would not be nearly so noticeable.

I wouldn't buy it, most likely, but not for design reasons only. I have no need, or use, for a 12 gauge gun with less than 30" barrels. If it had 32" barrels, and we're offered to me to use for a season, would I? You're mighty right I would. Even though it would be as out of place in Arkansas green timber, or a Jawjadawg peanut field, as a house cat at a dogfight.

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I find it odd that the overall design is so obviously modern minimalist, and yet they went with an intricate dragon motif in the engraving. I think that could have worked if they would have carried the dragon theme into the top lever, and gotten rid of the straight leading edge of the checkering in the wrist and replaced it with a curve similar to the rear edge of the receiver. Very incongruous to me. Or, done away with engraving entirely, a.k.a. the Ruger Gold Label to complete the minimalist theme. That said, the sleek, breech ball-less design has potential, but they need to re-work it. I would love to have one of these uncheckered and unengraved to play with, and with double triggers. Fun!

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