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I have to agree with Chuck, that is first class workmanship. Did you make the Borchardt rear sight? I know how they are made, it's easy when you know how, but if you don't it causes a lot of head scratching. lol.

I understand from an article I read that C.Sharps borrowed the original rifle to back engineer it, so they are the only ones likely to have plans. Joe Lozito MAY have got his plans in one of two ways, He could have purchased a C.Sharps copy or measured the only other existing action.(that's all there is of another).

Has anyone noticed that if the tangs were straightened on the action and the hammer and lock mechanism were removed,then you have the profile of the 1878 Borchardt. I wonder if he designed the '75 model as well?

I am not aware of anything on the 1875 in the Public Domain except perhaps a Patent. Sadly, I have never seen a Patent Drawing with dimensions. Nearly all of the plans for US single shot rifles available on the www were drawn by an ASSRA member who reverse engineered them from original rifles. The Borchardt plans were not done by him but another company (There are a lot of errors in the 1878 drawings, I know, I've nearly got mine finished). I've been away from my machines for nearly a year on Doctors Orders but I'm modifying my Mill at present and should be making chips again before Christmas. Virtually all the plans on the www and Fleabay are copies made from sets of drawings available from the ASSRA Archive for 10 bucks per set.
They are A4 size but enlarge beautifully to full size for a few dollars more at your local photocopying shop.

Good luck in your search but I think you may have problems getting plans. I think perhaps you may find it easier to find a crock of gold at the end of a rainbow.

Harry

Based on Harry's comments, it might be possible to start with the Brochardt drawings and cross-breed them with the 1874 drawing, plus pictures and maybe a patent drawing and come up with something similar. Won't be exactly like the original but you do get into the mind set of the original designer. Doing something similar (but not as complex) with a Walker-Hepburn and cannot resist making "improvements" Takes about as much time to make the drawings as to make the action.
Chuck

Thanks Harry and Chuck,

Yes, I made the woodwork and the sights.
The tang sight is made as the original one , only add a rotating disk in the cup for adjusts diameter. While shooting in Bisley we visit the NRA museum and saw a beautiful Remington Creedmoor rifle. On this rifle there was a very fine front sight.
I copied that for my Borchardt.

The problem with the C.Sharps 1875 action is that it has not the safety catch behind the trigger. And that makes the action so attractive. It`s not possible to make this when you have not a clue how it`s works and how it`s look inside.







Regards Leon.

Leon
Don't think I will ever try to tell you how to do anything again. That is superb.

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According to the above website, the checkered button behind the hammer is not a safety, but engages or disengages a self-cocking mechanism for the hammer. Don't ask me how it works.
Chuck

Leon,
The US Patent for the 1875 Sharps is 177852.
It will explain the operation of the button. I might add that your thoughts about the button improving the look I much agree with you. The currently marketed gun really loose it in the looks department, just don't have the "looks" of the original.
Maybe its that patina that only comes with time.

There was something about those two Sharps rifles that ran a bell in the cotton wool fuzziness that is my mind. I didn't recognise your 'Monika' MS64. Then I saw the name Leon and Netherlands and everything fell into place. We have been in touch before back in about 2005 or 6 and you were very, very helpful to me then. Like Chuck I won't tell you how to do any work either your far more skilled than I'll ever be. Can I take it that the numerals on the Long Range Staff were CNC engraved? I can spot only two very minor differences between your Staff and the original Borchardt Long Range Site other than for the rotating eye disk you mentioned.

I wish I could be more helpful with plans for the 1875 but I'm really stuck for a lead. Sorry.

Harry

Leon, would you please send me your home Email Address. Mine is harryeales@talktalk.net
I have something for you.

Thanks,

Harry

Harry,

Yes, staff is cnc engraved.
PM sent.

Leon.

Leon,
Did you get the patent drawings?
It is quite a short patent and simple to understand what the little button does.
I really feel that you could reverse engineer a very acceptable model for the 1875.
The very first single shot rifle I ever built (30 years ago) is what I named a Sharps 1876 model.

Not the best picture. Old picture. I have since engraved it a but don't have a pic of that.
I used this rifle for years as a competition gun and fired it thousands of times. The barrel was in the white in this photo as I replaced it once and that is the new barrel. Half round/oct.
It is in 40-70 Sharps straight firing a paper patch bullet.

I wish you the best on your 1876 project.

LRF,

Thanks very much for the patent link.
Now I have to find out how everything works
but it`s a start.

Leon.