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W&C Scott Premier Imperial 12 gauge 30" Damascus barrels choked 33 and 34 thousanths 21 minimum wall thicknesses Sideclips Crossbolt Ejectors Made in 1892 7 pounds 5 ounces 14-5/8 x 1-9/16 x 2-9/16 Stock broken in wrist - pinned repair.              
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Mike, you must be proud of this gun, but I can feel the energy being sucked right out of the bbs.
Sometimes, smaller is better - I feel like I'm at a drive-in again.
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Interesting, all finish turned to brown red including trigger guard. This is particular the case of Bad Storage Conditions. I wonder where it was for at least last 50 years, on garage shelf?Straigt candidate to total refurbushing.
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very nice! could anyone please put a name to the damascus pattern on the barrels.
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Thanks for the replies!
Lowell do you mean that when people view the thread the large pictures load up the BBS hardware and slow the service down? I am not challenging your statement - I just want to understand.
Geno - the receiver and trigger guard are "French gray" - just my poor photography skills make them look dark brown. It is just the barrels that are a very dark brown. The barrels have not been refinished. I have been negotiating to buy it for three years - it was at a pawn shop. And the pawn shop did keep it stored in the orginal W&C Scott case - with the lid closed.
Thanks Mr W.
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Deleted double post, please excuse.
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I believe the Damascus is Fine or Finest Damascus Three Rod, if Fine would be 67% steel, Finest would be 70% steel.
That's American terminology, don't know what the Britts would call it, the one thing it's all the same what ever name.
BTW, forgot to mention, a very beautiful gun and it shows the workmanship. Seems that most to all pre-1900 guns made here and in the U.K. were the finest quality compared to later.
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JDW - thanks. My friend Flintsteel and I had an interesting conversation with Dale Edmonds about the lack of color contrast in the Damascus. He said he has run into barrels from this period where he cannot get contrast. He speculated that the steel had more carbon and wouldn't take the color. Dale said he had picked up a two volume set of books by "Walsh" from the 1880s and that there was discussion in the book of the English makers starting to make their own Damascus tubes instead of importing them. He again speculated the barrels on my WC Scott could be made in England. Anway he knew immediately what we were talking about when we started describing the color and lack of contrast.
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Stunning Mike-your Brits might be proud to hunt with you now!  I agree with David-looks to be very high quality '3 Iron Crolle' and I'm going to add the pics to the 'Damascus Barrels' PictureTrail http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery.fcgi?p=999&gid=16082038Check out the (black & white) pattern on the T. Kilby
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Your Imperial is very interesting. Scott's top tier guns were known for their scroll and game scenes. The oak leaf is often seen on the Excelletia Triplex guns. It is my opionion only but I think the buttstock is a replacement. The checkering is very American is style and execution. The white line pad is obviously an American addition. Here are two pictures of another Imperial Premier that were shown on this BBS.  
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