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I spoke with the Galazan factory this morning concerning my December 2005 pre-paid RBL order.

"The December 2005 orders are just starting to be sent into the shop; once there, delivery is usually 6-8 weeks later. December 2005 was a big order month, and your 12-7-2005 order hasn't been started on yet."

Looks like May delivery is out, and late June may be possible. More likely July 2007, which would be 19 months. Of course two months ago, May delivery seemed likely.

I was at the FLATWATER shoot in Nebraska last weekend. There were many fine shotguns present, and a great group of shooters --but nary a single RBL.

JERRY GOLDSTEIN

19 months? That's like yesterday for a semicustom gun. I have waited that long on just an everyday rifle barrel.

Brent

I'd be waiting 'til the next cycle of global cooling 'fore my deposit 9/28/05 order'd come...if I hadn't cancelled.

True, perhaps, except that the RBL is not really a semi-custom gun. It is more like a production gun with options...


Jerry, you've hung in there this long. At least it seems that the more recent deliveries have had fewer issues than the first batches. So you have that in your favor. When you get it why don't you call up some of the St. Louis contingent so we can all admire it.

What's a semi-custom gun other than a production gun with options? A Shiloh Sharps is less custom than this and waits have run longer than 5 yrs. Right now I believe they are on par with this shottie.

If they made a sweet little hammer gun, I'd be in line to buy one more than likely and think nothing of a 19 mo wait. And I'd fully expect them to be overly optimistic about their deliveries. If there is one constant in the gun world - EVERYTHING takes longer than it is supposed to.

Brent

The whole "custom", "bespoke", "semi-custom", "production with options" thing seems more or less just an increasing curve of options on a production design, in most cases.

I guess it is an increasing curve kind of thing. But a person wishing to buy even an 870 has multitudes more choices to make than the five or six choices an RBL buyer makes.

According to the CSMC RBL update page


It seems that CSMC would like people to think of the RBL as a production gun.

On the other hand they are making guns for specific people so in that sense it is different than the person who chooses an already made 870.

Off the shelf is the same thing, whether it's the retailer's shelf or the gunmaker's shelf.

I may have misunderstood the young lady when I called about my Jan '06 order, but she said exactly the same as Jerry's quote above except - unless I heard wrong - that the next batch which would include mine will also have some deposit orders included. She emphasized that the December order was very large.

IF they can deliver the goods in the 19 months and IF you are genuinely happy with it, it's worth it. Otherwise, maybe not.