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Tim, keep me posted on the results of your looking into that trigger mechanism on the 17 that fires when trigger is released. Others will be interested as well. Thnks, Chopperlump

Mine is from 1922 and it will not "pump-fire".

I cycle it with the trigger held back and it doesn't fire. When I release the trigger I can hear it settle into the cocked position and then when I pull the trigger it will fire.

Rob

Most triggers with disconnestors have a main sear plus a secondary sear. When the action cycles with the trigger held back the secondary sear engages. When trigger is released it releases this secondary sear & hammer is then caught by the main sear, which is released upon puling the trigger. If the gun cocks normally when cycled without trigger being held, then the sear itself is not broken. Need to check why it is prevented from catching upon release of trigger, perhaps a build up of trash of some sort, or some other piece broken. Altogether a dangerous situation. Would much prefer no disconnector at all than one malfunctioning in this manner.

2 Piper solved the problem. Secondary sear was not engaging. I soaked the trigger assembly in gasoline overnight, brushed it out with a toothbrush, and voila! It now works. When gun is cycled with trigger held back snd then released, a little click is heard and movement takes place in the action slide release (on right front side of trigger guard). When trigger is then depressed, gun fires normally. Thanks a lot, 2-Piper! Chops

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Thanks 2-Piper!

Thanks to Chops as well as I would have never looked had you not asked.

Tim

Tim, the issue seemed to be 60 years of accumulated dirt plus a spring that was a bit sluggish due to the accumulation. Once cleaned, the spring was rejuvenated. Email me if you have a tough time figuring out how to check it out. Chops

Just looked at my 17, and it must be dirty as well, since it seems to suffer the "fire at release" of trigger problem about every other time. The gun hasn't been used much of late, and I seem to remember that, at one time, the gun worked exactly as Rob described. My copy is coming up on some work, a headspace check of both barrels, better fitting of the recoil pad, and refinish of buttstock, and recutting of checkering-I would have added a strip and clean at any rate when I begin this, but, I 'gotta tell you Chops, I wouldn't use gasoline! I feel bad enough burning it at 3 bucks a gallon.
Ithacas have used several different designs over the years, but, I can't site them from memory. My Ultralight 16 (an odd bird in the Ithaca lineup) does NOT, that I can tell, have a disconnector, but, if I try to get it to fire by pumping the gun while holding the trigger, it won't dent the primer hard enough to fire the gun. I have tried it, several times. The 12 gauge Ithaca has a good functioning disconnect. And, I hate to say it, but the "creme de la creme" disconnect seems to be the unit installed on the lowly 500 Mossbergs-simple, positive, and idiot proof. Did I mention I own several? Idiot proof is good.
Best,
Ted