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Another example might be a gun made by Hijos de Crucelegui, named "Terrible". Cultural context strikes again.

When I opened this up I had to laugh out loud. It startled both my wife and my dog enough to have her ask me what I was doing. Drew is a treasure! Where does he find this stuff? POS shotgun indeed.

Thanks so much for all the great input, really appreciate it!

best to all

John
Quality Arms
Houston, TX

seems like bad mouthing low end guns is kinda unfair to the maker and suggests one is not aware of how business sometimes works.

specifically, the spanish and the belgians had/have a reputation for building cheap guns in job lots for wholesale customers. they also built/build expensive guns one at a time for retail customers. the differences are quality and price point.

the pos is a classic example. sloans sporting goods distributors, then located in nyc, as i recall, in the 60's, ordered a few thousand pos brand guns, in various gauges from a manufacturer in spain. sloans wanted to pay a certain low price per gun wholesale, so they could mark them up and sell erm at a higher, but still low price, via their catalog and distributor network. sloans got what they ordered. a low end gun at a low price.

i have had a few pos brand guns over the years. they are basic field grade hunting guns that carry well and shoot where you point them. they are not finely finished and are not made of the finest materials. they were never intended to be anything more than an inexpensive hunting gun. if you shoot erm a lot, you may experience some mechanical issues. its like a lot of other consumer products. you get what you pay for...

Sloans also handled V. Bernardellis at one time, so they weren't strictly a low end dealer.

sloans moved to ct in the seventies and published a paper catalog for many years. as i recall they sold a variety of hunting and fishing related merchandise, mostly wholesale, at different price points and perceived quality levels.

Very informative thread. Interesting to me because I would like to have a nice Pedro Arrizabalaga. If anyone has one for sale or can recommend a good source in Spain, email me at fla3006@yahoo.com.

have seen them on gunsinternational and gunsamerica from time to time.

I heard another 'Whopper" about Spanish guns at a show this weekend. I had a few Mid-Grade, light game gun sidelocks and boxlocks for sale. According to one guy, the Spanish usually didn't bother to clean out the filings after they engraved their guns, resulting in excessive wear of the internal parts. What a Moron. Add this to the "Soft Steel" myth, as well as the rumor that one of the two major barrel makers made inferior barrels...

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Arrizab...un_id=100464623

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Arrizab...un_id=100464615

Looks to me like a two gun set being sold as individual guns. Whether they are worth $6,500 each, or $13,000 the pair, is debatable. Cannot say I think much of the wood that's on them, but anytime we buy a gun that was custom made for somebody else we need to think upon having it restocked to our measure.