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this question is for anyone willing to answer,do you tend to use heavy bullets at modest velocities in your 7x57. Gartenmeister can you tell us about your rifle?
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Griffin & Howe pre War Model 70, 7X57
VERY nice! Gartenmeister can you tell us about your rifle? Yes, it is actually recently acquired. I really don't know a whole lot about it and haven't a clue who built it. It is on a Brno 08/34 action with a Shilen barrel. There is nothing particularly outstanding about any of the components, but it is a pretty rifle and seems to be put together well. I purchased it because I like "the look" (whatever one calls it) and it is the mini-me to a similarly-styled .375 that was built for me by a dear friend.
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good looking gun,i have a 7x57 that is similar and a 7x06(280)that has the same style,the 280 is built on a hollands takedown.where the barrel and action come out and a piece of the rearmost tang stays in the wood.both have shilen barrels and open express sights thanks for posting pictures
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[quote=mc]this question is for anyone willing to answer,do you tend to use heavy bullets at modest velocities in your 7x57.
Believe it or not, I shot Federal Premium 7x57 139grs.for years but a few years ago due to a market shortage of that load, I bought some Prvi Partizan. I chose the 7x57 139grs. @ 2657FPS and 2175FP of Energy load and found it not only to be very accurate [avg.75in.] but due to superb expansion,with deadly quick kills. FYI at Sportsmans' Guide ABOUT $14.50 A BOX, AND IN STOCK NOW! HTH
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do you shoot the heavier bullets?i use 130 in my 270, 165 in the 7x06(280) if you do how is the accuracy and recoil, my rifle is fairly light thanks mc
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There is a 154 gr. RN load from Prvi Partizan, but I don't use it. I would if I was hunting Black Bear or Moose/Elk in Dark Timber. HTH
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I prefer the 7x64 [img:center] [/img] [img:center] [/img]
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MC, I use the H mantle 173gr bullet after trying bullets from 120gr up to the 173.I recognize and accept that others are just as taken with lighter bullets( usaually the very effective 139-140gr bullets).My rifle is a combo gun and with 160-173 gr bullets, the 16 ga slugs(Brennekes)are useable with the same sighting. With much lighter bullets it shoots "high and right",so slugs are not useable.After using the H mantle on fox,roe,boar, whitetail,and red deer,I find this bullet panetrates, but is not as destructive as other bullets( partition bullets are similat)."You pays your money and takes your choice", as someone once said. John can. I don't consider your Brno a lower end rifle, at all. Mike
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I've always wanted a 7x57 and looked hard at the Ruger No. 1A in that caliber. Ultimately, I stumbled across a Remington Model 725 in .280 Remington, a rifle which I'd lusted after since first seeing the Gun Digest article on the 725s about 40 years ago. So, instead of the 7x57, I have a slightly larger version which satisfies the yen. It now has one small 8-point Pennsylvania buck at 55 yards to its credit, a kill I suspect I could have made with a decent revolver, but sometimes that's the way deer hunting works.
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Noted second-hand BRNO Model 21s pricey, upper teens. Bought mine new nearly 65 years ago for $135. Canadian Industries Limited made a 139-grain at the time with, it says on the box, "a muzzle velocity of 2900 feet per second and a muzzle energy of 2600 foot pounds. If the rifle is sighted for 250 yards, the bullet will strike approximately 3 1/2 inches high at 125 yards, and approximately 4 1/2 low at 300 yards." Still have a couple boxes but defer now to Federal 140 because of their age.
I looked up an Outdoor Life clipping of Jack O'Connor answering a question from a hunter about the best rifle for his wife on an Alaskan hunt. "Would you recommend a .270 for such a program?" He said his slightly built wife would use it on mule deer, sheep, antelope, black bear and "perhaps even an Alaska brown bear." JO'C, the great .270 promoter, answered in a column titled "Rifle for a Woman:
"Well, if I were in your shoes, especially with an Alaska hunt in prospect, I think I would choose the 7mm. Ballistically, it is not far behind, and it has an advantage in that bullets up to 180 gr. can be used. For big bear the heaviest bullet is often the best, and in those south-east Alaska jungles one doesn't need higher velocity. The .270 is a grand cartridge but for your special purposes I think the 7mm has the edge."
Hunting in the Codroy Valley of Newfoundland, I hit a moose running down one of those steep hills with a 160 gr. handload. It more than stopped the moose in its tracks. In spite of its momentum, it instantly went straight up on its hind legs and reared over onto its back, stone dead. The bullet shattered the spine in its neck. I could go on and on about the 7mm. It's one helluva calibre.
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