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brian: there seems to be some rudeness and resistance to civil discourse here...If you would like to take our discussion private, that is fine by me.

ed, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.

On second thought, why don't you hold your breath waiting.

and brian, in addition to rudeness and resistance to civil discourse, there are other attributes that define the keiths of this forum:

-notice how they jump to negative conclusions and make outrageous claims about others who express ideas that may not be in 100% agreement with their own.

-notice how they take every opportunity to tell us what we already know, over and over again.

-they do not seem to understand the concept of good citizenship. good citizens do not always have to have a law to require them to do what is right for the general welfare of all.

-by telling the same lies and making the same outrageous claims over and over again, they seem to subscribe to the theory that if you say something long enough and loud enough, people will begin to believe it...come to think of it, isn't that how Clinton and Obama got elected pres?

Are you holding your breath waiting for Brian to agree with an anti-gunner and discuss N.Y. grouse hunting with you? I sure hope so.

Please have your widow let us know where to send condolences and flowers.

oh yeah, I forgot one: meanness. there is just a lot of mean spirited posts here by a few individuals, that ruins it for the majority of us.

this could be such a wonderful forum, if the moderator would just enforce the rules:

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Brian, all this anti-gunner accusations is a lot of nonsense---and you know it. You've been around, seen things, been on the board long enough to know that most would be hard-pressed to name a member who's against guns, owning guns, shooting guns, collecting guns, looking at them, fixing them, reading about them, storing them in a vault etc. All or some of those interests are why members are here. I can't think of an anti-gunner here---ever.

Most of us have read voluminous statistics about homicides, massacres, risks of use compared to other activities. A few members declare their use of the board to promote their opinions and political ideologies. Fair enough, that's what Misfires is for. Most of us know that US liberals and conservatives are almost divided equally at election-time although a few members rant continually that anyone voting differently are---well, you know all the words.

There's a measure of arrogance in asking me what I consider reasonable restrictions on constitutional rights, blithely arrogating that I would restrict them. You've read my opinions of what others have said about those rights. I wrote to an American legislator and the NRA around the time of last massacre about considering how and why Canada got rid of its long gun registry. I was a active gunner in our own struggle to keep gun rights.

Here' are other statistics: Charles Darwin's signature discovery ceased to be a matter of serious debate long ago in most of the world. But 42 per cent of Americans are "not to" or "not at all" confident that all life on earth is the product of evolution. Similarly, 51 per cent are skeptical the universe started with a "big bang," and 36 per cent doubt the earth has been around for 4.5 billion years. A former Playboy model with a high school education is a world-wide leader in the anti-vaccination movement.

I can understand a cock-eyed accusation about me coming from that environment. The US is being inundated by a wave of anti-science, anti-intellectual thinking to the point, from magazine articles, the country is losing its mind. But you are a citizen and serving military officer of senior responsibilities contributing to your country and community. Where's something more substantial than pernicious spite-and-spleen evidence to support your accusation? I'm no more anti-gunner than you are---and you know it.

Ed
it clearly defines both the organized and un-organized militia of the United States:

10 U.S.C. § 311 : US Code - Section 311: Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. (b) The classes of the militia are - (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/10/A/I/13/311#sthash.gMcAPaq7.dpuf

There are no people with anti-gun agenda on these forums. This is figment of some peoples rather vivid imagination.

brian: "the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Milita"...that's the part to me that is not clearly defined. and perhaps it was left that way on purpose?

one could interpret that the unorganized militia includes those militia units under the command of state governors.

and one could also interpret that the unorganized militia includes all citizens.

wonder if this question has ever been presented to a federal court?