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Keith is spot on with his assessment of my comments about "hidden agenda". Well since I'm Not the type to hide things I'll make "hidden agenda" perfectly clear.
The are individuals who come on this forum maintaining they're double gun enthusiasts. However I believe They're real goal is to stifle any threads that identify and criticise our common enemy who are ultra Liberal Democrats on the extreme left fringe we refer to as Libtards. Keith is also right that these same Libtard politicians seem to favor amnesty, unbridled spending, make excuses for scandals like Becghazi, Fast & furious, The IRS, the VA,the criminal actions of the Justice Department and the obvious ineptness of the occupant of the White House.
Their usual argument is "This is a gun board and political discussion belongs elsewhere yadda yadda yadda". If that approach is unsuccessful as it has generally been here they try to disrupt the board and create contention in any way such as raising non-issues such as the board is racist or misogynist. In other words if the can't get their way with their ultra liberal agenda they would rather try to destroy the board rather then let it continue.
That's what I believe has been attemped here as of late. Fortunately there's enough of us watching what's going on and a site owner who I believe to be on to this ruse. If that's what any of you reading this have been attempting to do I'd suggest you give it up because it ain't gonna fly here.
Jim

Not persuasive Keith. Caleb's words themselves can fairly be understood as contentious without dishonesty. When flimsy attributions of sinister motive color interpretation beyond simple meaning, the discussion moves beyond logic.

Jay

I think caleb hung in there with 'discussion' even when it became clear that from some points of view, there is a policy criticism. The dishonest part to me, is being contentious, always right on the issue, if you will and then admitting his intolerance for policy discussion. 'This stuff isn't a debate, it was settled 50 years ago.'

I guess we'll never know without subjecting calebg to waterboarding and polygraphs Jay. But I think I/we laid out a pretty strong circumstantial evidence case. In another thread, where the poster wasn't a friend of yours, I think you might feel differently. Personal bias can be blinding for any of us... myself included. However, most here seem to also think calebg had ulterior motives and also had no right to inflict his standards on the owner of this board or the rest of us who are content with it just as it is. It's particularly vexing when a relative newbie moves in and tries to change the status quo. Reminds me of those city folk who move into the country and immediately start trying to ban the release of cow pies. They smelled the aroma when they bought the property, but dove in anyway. I still do not believe that someone who has been registered on this site for 6 years never once encountered a contentious political rant until the last few weeks. That Jay, is something which defies logic.

Some of the so-called incivility and rudeness that ruffles the feathers of certain hypersensitive grown men here pales in comparison to what they would encounter at work, at hunting camp, or even on a junior high school bus. We see right through it.

I note with some satisfaction that I was correct about what Jim was thinking when he made his statement about a hidden agenda and the notion that... "so now we're all misogynists." Of course, I had the advantage of being much more familiar with Jim's thinking, and the knowledge that this thread isn't the first time we've been accused of racism, misogyny, bigotry, and every other sin under the sun in an attempt to quell the discussion about the failings of the Liberal Democrat politicians who we see coming after our guns and fundamentally transforming our country into something the Founding Fathers would not even recognize. This here is just a microcosm of the exact same tactics which are routinely used on a National scale by racist, misogynist, bigots in the DNC and Democrat Party. As many times as I have posted links and actual quotes of racist, bigoted statements made by folks in positions of power and influence in the Left... not once has any of our resident Leftists acknowledged it. Never! They all cut and run, or ignore, or change the subject. I may not have the X-ray vision to know exactly what's in a man's heart, but I know dishonesty and hypocrisy when I see it.

"and also had no right to inflict his standards on the owner of this board or the rest of us who are content with it just as it is. It's particularly vexing when a relative newbie moves in and tries to change the status quo. Reminds me of those city folk who move into the country and immediately start trying to ban the release of cow pies. They smelled the aroma when they bought the property, but dove in anyway"


And its always the liberals who want to make everyone else be like they decide they should be,the party of NO tolerance.

I'd like to propose that a new section be set up on the forum that,for lack of a better title, I'll call "The Bullshit Post Of The Day".
We will all get to nominate our choice then vote since many believe this is a Democracy. However the actual choice will be made by the site owner because this is in fact a Republic and he constitutes the Electoral College.

I want to make it perfectly clear that members posts such as King Brown's are ineligible since they have already been elevated or degraded(your choice) to The Bullshit Hall Of Fame.
The induction ceremony for those deemed outstanding bullshitters will be conducted naturally by the Bullshitter in Chief in the Oval Office with Mrs. Rice serving as witness if someone can get him off the golf course long enough to do anything.
Jim

You can nominate this one for your new forum Jim.

My company has a few hundred employees. A mixture of men and women.

To use the vernacular here, We cull employees regularly that speak, and act, as many of the prominent posters within this thread.

So, if you are called in to your personnel offices, and are escorted from the premises, remember you always have a boss, and they apply the rules of the arena.

It's not even relevant if you like it or not.
It's Federal law, and insurance only covers discrimination to a certain degree. No matter how indispensable you think you are. It's far cheaper and easier to take you to the gate.

You want your job? Keep your mouth shut. Leave your co-workers alone. Do what we pay you to do. Leave your politics at the gate.
Oh, and our customers have even more say over if you stay or not. Those female or minority engineers can pull a 30 million dollar contract because of a stupid remark. You are an easy sacrifice if you open your yap. Oh, and a stupid remark is any remark not directly related to the work made to or around, anyone.

As a side point,

Do the ranter's think an "all rant all the time" forum adds or subtracts from the site? Does it carry it forward in it's mission? Or does it hold it back?

I ask that because Dave refers to himself as a doubles evangelist. That pre-supposes he wishes to advance a personal affectation for double guns, and shows a desire to help others find the same feelings for themselves. Like a religion might do.

This was the preeminent site for vintage doubles information and processes, but those contributions seem much further apart anymore. Almost rare actually.

The great question for me is "Did I do something that would make a doubles hobbyist choose to not post here?" Not a question I can answer.

But I do know the site cannot survive without the content.

Drive it away, and there'll be 10 guys left sitting in a circle wondering what happened.

Just my unwanted 2 cents.

lets see now, we got sxs, keith, craig and dave k all here in the circle...wonder why pa and mikee aint here...maybe nurse ratchet is givin erm their weekly fire hose shower?

hey guys! wadda ya say we go fishin next Saturday?

an anybody seen chief lately?

I put in my time in the corporate world and watched all the political correctness stuff unfold and kept my mouth shut. I watched the abuses and realized there was one group that could be abused and discriminated against to any extreme imaginable and no one would raise or listen to an objection and that group of course was middle aged White males. I witnessed this 1st hand and as a management employee myself knew damn well what was going on.
Many were in management and professional positions and were driven out on any pretext so their jobs could be filled be lower paying and,in general, far less qualified individuals.
I finally said to Hell with it and opened and ran my own business until I retired.
I don't now and never have dumped on minorities or females and would be one of the first to speak up if I was exposed to this behavior.
On the other hand; I don't cowtow to ANYONE or any group that I think is damaging our Country. From the occupant of the White House and his flunkies to most of Congress to half of the Supreme Court and to anti-American groups such as the ACLU, MAIG etc.
I'm retired so what exactly is anyone going to do. Force me to un-retire? Cut off my retirement funds?
I'll tell you one thing this oppressive administration is in a position to do and that's cut off my medical care and I suspect that's a option this ultra left wing administration has under consideration as an "attitude adjustment" tool.
And I firmly resent your referring to us as "ranters" as we're just reporting and commenting upon what's going on in the Country today, primarily in the area of the 2nd Amendment, in one of the few truly free media resources that's still available.
If you or anyone else doesn't want to read about it then stay out of Misfires and go get your "news" from Brian Williams.

For those who may have lost sight of the original post, here it is above.

The OP's only crime may have been over-generalizing when he use the words "full of" to describe the extend of the issue. Myself, I would have used the words "happens here more often than on other gun boards". Perhaps it is the same member(s) posting the racist and misogynistic comments (I don't know, I've never formally kept track or logged the key words for retro-active search purposes to satisfy the willfully blind deniers) but it is certainly jaw dropping and it happens here more than it should. This thread was about nothing more. Nothing.