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I was fit at 14 7/8" but for a pistol grip. I would like to have 15" over a checkered (or grooved) butt.
This is an aside (highjacking my own thread) but I don't understand why more guns aren't built with longer stocks? Anyone buying a gun with a long stock can have it shortened and the butt checkered, but someone who needs a long stock can't "put it back
CHAZ
Again OT, but what I find even more frustrating is all the nice guns out there that have been shortened to 14" or less LOP & over a 1" recoil pad. When that is done you can't even fit it to a normal sized person by adding a pad. There must have been a whole lot of short armed, recoil sensitive midgets with poor gun mounts that were interested in shotguns at some time in the past.
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I would like to have 15" over a checkered (or grooved) butt. My Uggie SLE 20 came with 30" barrels and 15" LOP over a checkered butt. Too long for me, but I'm not selling it. At least some of the CSMC RBLs had the option for 14-3/4" LOP over a hard plate. Worth considering.
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I found a 15 inch RBL with a straight stock, but no RBL ever sold for the "base model" price as far as I have seen.
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If it were my money?
I wouldn't spend $4,000 on a Lion Country Grade V. That's just a Ugartechea model 110 being sold under a retailer's name. If I wanted a Spanish side lock and had 4K to spend there are better values than the Ugartechea 110.
I also wouldn't spend $4,000 on a box lock, regardless of maker. That's about ten times what a nice, used, 12 gauge Spanish box lock can be had for.
If you don't care whether the gun you buy is a side lock or a box lock, and want a straight stocked 12 gauge SxS with a long stock, and are willing to spend up to $4,000, I have a suggestion for you.
Buy a nice used Spanish box lock off Gun Broker for under $1,000. Spend another $1000 on a spectacular stock blank. And then spend another $1000 - $2000 to have used 12 gauge restocked to your measure using the spectacular stock blank.
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I thought about restocking the one I have now but it felt like throwing money away since I will never recoup it if I decided to sell.
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Why have a copy of a British gun when you could have a British gun?
$4K will buy a nice one in 12GA. Some really nice ones for that money or less, for sure. The only issue is that most of them will be 2 1/2" guns. If that's not a concern for you, and if you don't belong to a club where they require steel shot or do a lot of hunting where you need to shoot steel, that's an excellent way to go. Of course you could spend $3K or less on a nice Brit boxlock and have enough left over to buy something that will handle steel, if that's only a minor issue for you.
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If it were my money?
I wouldn't spend $4,000 on a Lion Country Grade V. That's just a Ugartechea model 110 being sold under a retailer's name. If I wanted a Spanish side lock and had 4K to spend there are better values than the Ugartechea 110.
I also wouldn't spend $4,000 on a box lock, regardless of maker. That's about ten times what a nice, used, 12 gauge Spanish box lock can be had for.
If you don't care whether the gun you buy is a side lock or a box lock, and want a straight stocked 12 gauge SxS with a long stock, and are willing to spend up to $4,000, I have a suggestion for you.
Buy a nice used Spanish box lock off Gun Broker for under $1,000. Spend another $1000 on a spectacular stock blank. And then spend another $1000 - $2000 to have used 12 gauge restocked to your measure using the spectacular stock blank.
I was thinking the exact, same thing, but, I wouldn't put a $1000 blank on a $400 gun. Oh, and I'd be happier without ejectors or a single trigger. You put it all in pretty good perspective, however. Best, Ted
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The Webley and Scott 700s are nice guns and they have factory 2-3/4" chambers. They are within your budget.
Last edited by AmarilloMike; 05/23/14 09:39 PM.
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I thought about restocking the one I have now but it felt like throwing money away since I will never recoup it if I decided to sell.
Chaz I understand and empathize. But few who buy at retail ever recoup what they paid when they sell. Used Spanish box locks comparable to the AyA #4 sell on Gun Broker in the $500 range, and used Spanish side lock comparable to the Ugartechea model 110 sell in the $1000 range.
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The Webley and Scott 700s are nice guns and they have factory 2-3/4" chambers. They are within your budget. Most of them have integral strikers. There is absolutely nothing wrong with an integral striker-until it breaks. It then becomes a custom one-off repair for a very good gunsmith. Think disc set strikes. When one breaks, you put another in, in the cab of the truck, using a Zippo for light, if needed. I am told 700s exist with disc set strikers, but, I haven't seen one. As to how often integral strikers break, I've seen one more (on a 12 gauge 700) then I needed to see. Best, Ted
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