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AYA 4/53 boxlock (actually NECG 4/25) 15" LOP to checkered butt

Uggie grade 5 round action SLE 14 1/2" LOP will need a pad

This will be my one and only side by side. Hunting 20 days a year and sporting clays maybe 500 targets a year.

I would appreciate your opinions to help me decide.
CHAZ

Hi, if I had to pick between the two, it would be the Uggie. A classier gun, nice engraving, decent wood and IMO a better feel. Just my opinion mind you. True a BLE is simpler, but there is something special about a Round Body SLE. I wouldn't worry about the quality factor, they are about the same.

There are plenty other choices, but you narrowed down what you want, so we should stick to your choices.

Good Luck!

Greg

Easy. AyA.

Quality factor IS important, and AyA is way out in front.

Simple, nice looking boxlock gun.

It will require only a little oil, and lots of shells.

$4K for an AYA boxlock? You can get a lot of nicer things on the market for that money, new and used. If it is important, you are unlikely to get even half your money back if you decide to sell it. If you want a box lock, get a Uggi and save half your money, or look at the new Fausti's. If you want reliable, get a used BSS or SKB, or look at the NEW SKB's.

I have no experience with either brand, but I have to agree with danross..4 grand could get you into something better.. a pretty nice older English.German or Belgian BL..which I think would be a far nicer gun to own.
Just wondering if the OP had thought about these options, is all.
cheers, & good luck with your choice Sir
franc

I would buy the right used gun, but I haven't found it yet. If I don't end up getting anything before then I will be shopping the Great Northeastern at Hausmann's.

CHAZ

An Uggie for half the money is half the gun. That's why it's half the money.

Markets don't lie.

AyA's do well in the used market, they are way easier to sell than a Ugartechea. That name comes with a blank stare, while the AyA name at least results in a nod of the head.

This is from John Boyd's ad on this site. (Quality Arms).

A very tidy little gun, at a fair price. New.

The question is if was MY $4k, and this is where it would go.



AYA #453 - 20 ga. 28" ic/mod. This is one of the really nice upland guns made by one of the most respected makers' in Spain today. This elegant , small frame gun has a case colored receiver with a light engraving. A traditional game gun with double triggers, straight stock and a splinter forearm. This gun was ordered with select grade wood, with the AYA best hand rubbed oil finish. Also on this nice lightweight gun there is a stock oval in the butt stock where you can custom engrave your initials if you wish. These are beautifully custom built guns that are of exceptional quality! New. (1 1/2 x 2 3/8 x 15 * 6 lb.)
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Gun # KK-16-09
$3,695

I was looking at 12s but I revisit that ad often, the wood is beautiful. I might not need all that shot?
I am trying to sell an older sle Uggie so I know about resale. That is why I am thinking about trying to trade at Lion Country thinking I would get my best trade value at an Uggie dealer.
Chaz

Gun for gun, dollar for dollar, the Uggie is equivalent to the AyA, at least in the guns I have seen and handled. I have Uggies, my buddy has AyAs. I prefer the Uggies, he prefers guns with a big name. They are both nice guns, but the Uggie gives a bit more bang for the buck.

Actually markets do lie when it comes to the question of quality. Quality has to do with how well something was made, not the price it commands or the speed with which it will be sold on the used market. Those issues are more greatly affected by brand name value and/or collectibility in our little corner of the world.

For real world examples we just have to look at the long term realized auction price valuation tables created by Rocketman here to help with assessing the likely value (selling price) of English and Continental guns. The biggest component of current value is Brand Name. For double guns Branding includes both the actual maker as well as his location (London, Birmingham, Liege, St. Etienne etc)