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+1, on all counts. And 40% less expensive than a Purdey or H&H and not owned by some international conglomerate.

I was talking with a UK-trained gunsmith yesterday about two vintage UK best guns that had Miller triggers installed after they were sold. He described in detail what that conversion does to the gun's action (removed interceptor sears, bent main sears, wood removed for the trigger mechanism, safety altered, etc.), and the ham-handed way it was done on those guns. That is a whole different issue than an OEM trigger installed when the gun is ordered.

Enjoy seeing this on your posts -- calls up the music for me from those very good ol' days.

Jay

Hunter could pen a song like no other. That one is so genuine and stands the test of time. The theme certainly reminds me of another classic, by Crosby, Long time gone.

Thinking the steam has about run out of this topic, so hope others will forgive me for extending this digression.

Doverham and SKB -- SKB's post led me to look for a refresher of the lyrics, and I found the following in an annotation. Maybe you guys know this background, but it's new to me. My mom died a year ago, and the song says something new to me now.

Jay

From Classic Albums: American Beauty, a film by Jeremy Marre:

Lesh (On "Box of Rain"): The lyrics came about in an unusual way. This was the first time I had written a song in a long time, and I had worked out the melody and the chords, and in fact the whole song, from beginning to end�introduction, coda, and everything�and I put it on a tape and gave it to Hunter.

Hunter: He'd just written these lovely changes and put 'em on a tape for me, and he sang along (scat singing of melody)�so the phrasing was all there, I think I went through it two or three times, writing as fast as I could, and that song was written. I guess it was written for a young man whose father was dying.

Lesh: And at that time, my dad was dying of cancer, and I would drive out to visit with him, in the hospital, and also at the nursing home he spent his final days in, and after Bob gave me the lyrics, on the way out there I would practice singing the song. I sort of identified that song with my dad and his approaching death. The lyrics that he produced were so apt, so perfect. It was very moving, very moving for me to experience that during the period of my dad's passing. I felt like singing it in other situations similar to that since then.

GC - thanks for sharing that. You do learn a lot of things on this board!

While "promo" loads are typically light in shot charge, that does not mean that they are light in terms of either pressure or velocity. They are made with enough "punch" so that even dirty autoloaders will function, which means they're not really "light" at all. Thinking they're fine in short-chambered guns is indeed a mistake. I can load up 1 1/8 oz 12ga field loads which, although they have a heavier shot charge, will be lighter in terms of both pressure (down close to 7,000 psi, in the specific load I use) and velocity than your typical cheapo big box store load.

Thought to resurrect this OP for a brief comment. I just received a gun that, upon inspection, reminded me of another screw-up with nice doubles that I have experienced. A mid bead has been added and, it is off center on the rib. This infuriates me. There is a simple little inexpensive gizmo from Brownell's that centers the drilling site on the rib for a bead. Foolproof. But, some think they can "eyeball" it. Most can't. The result is a mid-bead that is off center, and uglier than death eating a cracker.

If a gun wasn't built with a mid-bead, DON'T PUT ONE ON IT!!! This little Verona 692 LX 28 and 410 combo has a mid bead on the 28 set that is visibly off center. Now I've got to deal with fixing that. Yeah, I've got to. I can't stand to mount it and see that screw-up.

SRH

That is sickening. Hope you can fix it where it doesn't show. What a drag!

OK; I'll open up the can of worms. Taking a decent original gun and "upgrading" it, making it into something it was never intended to be.

I think the key word there, F2F, is "decent". Agree a gun should be left alone if it's in really nice original condition. On the other hand, if it's not that nice but still a good candidate for restoration . . . why not upgrade it? As long as you don't intend to deceive the buyer if you decide to sell it.