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Miller & Val. Greiss Nr. 19262 2,2 Gr. Sch. P. over 35,5 Gr. Bl. Anyone else think this examples has any Lindner like characteristics? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Interesting gun . .
Lindner-like détails -
- "Steel eyes" in the forend indicating ejectors - Sculpting of the fences (pre-side clip era) - Reinforcement/bolster of the side of the action - Pin/screw placement - "Frog eye" cocking indicators
NON Linder-like details
- Flat/straight action back (only the earliest Lindner hammerless guns had non-arcaded actions) - Engraving pattern to include the barrel engraving - Blueing of the action screw below the barrels
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Charles Daly #1918 with initials HB on the underside of the 80cm pattern welded tube. It is at Cabelas, Wichita. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Enlarged image of R.S. initials Enlarged image of script L Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Raimey: the Daly at the Wichita Cabela's is the first I've seen with Damascus-Twist barrels. Any idea as to grade? Thanks for keeping this interesting thread going, and have a very blessed 2014.
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Dr. Hause, a belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours. Um, not sure at all on the hammergun Daly being a bit more home-grown than the previous versions with patterned welded tubes wearing Birmingham touchmarks. Interesting that the tubes did measure an integer cm(80cm) & not an English integer. I was not able to capture any images so I just took an image of an image to post on the thread.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Gun-Library/Wichita-Gun-Library%7C/pc/103792680/c/112378680/Charles-Daly-SxS-in-12-Ga/1666840.uts?destination=%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FcategoryId%3D112378680%26WTz_l%3DSBC%253BSAcat104791680%253Bcat103792680
Copy & Paste(Go-to) or use: Reference #: 2720656
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Image of a close-up image. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Drew: From memory, the forend latch was a Deeley & Edge type. Was it Remington that had the Deeley & Edge authorization in the mid to late 1870s??? My guess the guide to the grades would be to define the action type and go from there, more than likely being under the Schoverling & Daly banner(remember both worked for Böker and me thinks there's an interesting story there that either developed or aided in their sourcing modell) or shortly thereafter.
Side Snap Action $100 - $110
Top Snap Action, Double Bolt $130 - $175
Pistol Grip Stocks(extra) $ 10
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If it wasn't acquired directly from S,D&G, a wild brace of guesses would be that the outlets were either Henry C. Squires of 178 Broadway, New York or Sears, Roebuck & Co. Interesting that in the mid 1890 Sears was peddling the Dalys and notes the offerings being "Improved 1894 Model". I do not see any Daly offerings in the 1900 version.
The Charles Daly Nr. 250-Diamond(Sears - No. 818) retailed at $250 U.S. of A. but Sears listed it as $189.50
Charles Daly Nr. 150(Sears No. 819) listed at $129
Charles Daly Nr. 120-Featherweight(Sears No. 821) listed at $102.64.
As a sidenote, I stumbled across a fella Memphis, Tn., who retailed Charles Daly variants & I wonder if he relieved or added choke:
Frank Schuman of 412 Main Street, Memphis immigrated from Germany in 1856 and was noted as having knowledge of "choke, boring of guns". He peddled a Schuman breech loader as well as Charles Daly.
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