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They say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Well, that must say alot about Rizzini.

John hit the nail right on the head. This isn't an over/under model 21. This is a redone Inverness, which of course is a copy of the Rizzini (who also just so happened to have a model named the Inverness that CSMC used to import). They simply shaped, styled, and finished it like a Winchester 21. Hence the safety and barrel selector and lock up being the way they are.

None the less, it is a nice gun and I'd love to have one.

Gotta give it to Tony. Genesis business move.

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I wonder if the steel grip cap will survive into production. It did not in the Inverness

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Originally Posted By: Krakow Kid
John - I'm curious. Why exactly does the combination of a 20 bore and 32" barrels appeal to you? Is it for skeet or clays?


Sporting clays and dove, what I like to refer to as a "long-range puffer". The swing dynamics of a 20 gauge and 32" barrels on a well-balanced o/u (or sxs for that matter) are so satisfying on a clays course or in a dove field.
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My Inverness is a bit barrel heavy with 30" tubes. 32" will likely need more weight in the stock. The stock is thin on the Inverness. They may need to make the stock a bit beefier to have better balance

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Originally Posted By: Adam Stinson
They say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Well, that must say alot about Rizzini.

John hit the nail right on the head. This isn't an over/under model 21. This is a redone Inverness, which of course is a copy of the Rizzini (who also just so happened to have a model named the Inverness that CSMC used to import). They simply shaped, styled, and finished it like a Winchester 21. Hence the safety and barrel selector and lock up being the way they are.

None the less, it is a nice gun and I'd love to have one.

Gotta give it to Tony. Genesis business move. 'gotta give it to Tony', give what there Adam? A license to steal?, A get out of jail free card? He already has those things. A Model 21, yeah right. And using the Winchester Model 21 tools to make a Rizzini?? I'm guessing Mr. John Olin would roll over in his grave if he only knew about this so called Model 21 O/U !!

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Oh, and btw, Model 21 Winchester shotguns have chopper lump barrels, hence their excellence. If CSMC is failing to make these O/U with demibloc or choppers, then they are clearly failing to meet the Winchester standard of the Model 21.


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I think that's a deal if you want a 20.I assume it is all made in America.They need some type of roll stamp engraving on each side of the locks and make a 12 in 30inch and I'm in for 3000. plus maybe a stock upgrade.


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Many Thanks, John.

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I know coulda woulda is fun. But, The boys Tony and Lou will be at Las vegas with this puppy in Jan. So start shopping for a nice Christmas for the war department. Then you can order away after you have looked at it. Or not. But no whining if you miss the intro deadline and see the price go up.
Here is a speculation for you will Tony file the sides so you have a nice pregnant reciever as in some of the early 21 SxS. Fyour grade 6 or grand american.
Happy holidays and ponderings.
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I get all the emails from CSMC I assume everyone else does, but the mailings I used to get by post are nearly gone completely.

I can't for the life of me recall an "announcement" of this latest offering. I mean, the information distribution for the Inverness was massive, a barrage complete with multiple emails as well as brochures mailed through the post.

Does this ring true with anyone else, or is this a case of failed memory or insta-delete from my emails? Has an actual "cut-off" of the introductory offer been stated?

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