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"You would not pay attention or give credence to the post above because you have joined the faith of the liberal Left. Because you are not undecided on theses subjects, prepared to consider facts and logic with an open mind but have decided, as an article of faith, that the ends justify the means. Because you believe in and support the power of the state over the individual, despite millennia of history that proves the folly of that line of thinking"

I couldn't have said it any better myself. You can't engage in any type of realistic discussion with the libtard true believers as they have blinders on.
If you ever watch Hannity these Cretans don't want to discuss anything as all they want to do is keep presenting their "point" no matter how ridiculous or inane it may be. I frankly don't know why he even bothers having them on.
Jim

Fiscal management is important, James. That's how Canada got through the great recession better than any of the G20 countries. Our governments regulated as they should and now in better place for a recovery.

My only question is the emphases of debt. It's what, in every case, what the country owes to itself. US intellectual energy itself is priceless, and the whole stately edifice of the richest and most powerful country is built on debt.

The issue, the spectacle that has the world literally spellbound, is a minority paralyzing governance, holding the country to ransom because it won't "negotiate" on law declared constitutional by Supreme Court, its citizens raging against Congress.

Again, the issue is not support for the president. It's this wonderful country tied in knots by politicians who don't act on their responsibilities to serve those who elected them. It's the essence of what led to the rise of Hitler and Mussolini: people suckered with the man with the right words.

There's not a soul here who doesn't know what default means to the American people and its ricocheting around the world. Forget the deficit for now. This nonsense is all a radical rump unwilling to accept Obamacare thinly disguised into all sorts of the old legerdemain.

The moderate Republicans will pull this out for one reason only: they have to.

King, there is all sorts of truth in what you say but you assign both responsibility and blame to the wrong people.

The minority you refer to is the radical left come to power under Obama. Not the Tea Party and it's adherents.

If there is any default, it would be by the ideological intention of the executive branch that pulls the strings of distribution. Fine, you win, the US defaults any way.

What programs, entitlements, waivers (wink, not corporate welfare because libs decided), investments, etc. would YOU have take priority over paying the debt. Remember, no fair trivializing or distracting, the revenue is there and the printing presses are on autopilot.

I guess I am really not paranoid!
All of the BHO supporters here, refute the facts as presented. Not emotions but facts.

Also, Dems and RINO's, answer me this. Who pays for this spending, or better yet, how do they pay for it? when does it stop?
IT IS UNSUSTAINABLE.

Brian:
Libtards Cannot refute the real facts and that's why the just keep repeating lie after lie, screaming is more accurate, about their inane positions. Watch Hannity, which is the best example I can come up with that all have access to, and you'll see that no real facts come from the Libtards nor do they attempt to refute the facts presented by the Conservatives. They just sit there and scream.

FACT Number 1. The United States will go bankrupt if we continue the idiotic spending that has characterized the Obama administration. We've basically reached the end of the line on raising the debt ceiling. Even if the debt ceiling is raised again I expect our credit rating will take another hit.

Well: We're just about due for more obfuscation from King Brown here. Get ready for the smoke and mirrors!

I think Burger King should adopt the mantra of liberal Mothers Against Everything...

And disavow the commercial production of alcoholic beverages like wine!

They simply contribute to drunk driving, brain damage, and the ill-advised procreation of ugly people.

He can use his government farm subsidies for drugs instead.

King,

there is NO chance of default unless Obama decides to,the math-as I pointed out several days ago shows the US can indeed pay the debt.They are using this as a scare tactic to further their liberal agenda !Stop spreading the lie.


from Moodys;

Contradicting the Obama administration, Moody's Investors Service says that hitting the debt limit shouldn't be confused with default. The Washington Post writes:

"In a memo being circulated on Capitol Hill Wednesday, Moody�s Investors Service offers 'answers to frequently asked questions' about the government shutdown, now in its second week, and the federal debt limit. President Obama has said that, unless Congress acts to raise the $16.7 trillion limit by next Thursday, the nation will be at risk of default.

"Not so, Moody�s says in the memo dated Oct. 7.

"'We believe the government would continue to pay interest and principal on its debt even in the event that the debt limit is not raised, leaving its creditworthiness intact,' the memo says. 'The debt limit restricts government expenditures to the amount of its incoming revenues; it does not prohibit the government from servicing its debt. There is no direct connection between the debt limit (actually the exhaustion of the Treasury�s extraordinary measures to raise funds) and a default.'"

Dave, we're going to find out soon enough about debt limit and default. The party blamed most for default can forget 16. As for Moody, have you forgotten its credit rating performance during the Great Recession? Neither honourable or prudent.

so, holding the debt ceiling at where it is, means the feds either gotta increase revenues or reduces costs?