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I think it is a good idea. Pumps, while looked down upon by some, are truly American and as I read somewhere "it takes a real man to shoot a pump gun."
I mostly shoot doubles but I do use my Browning Uplander pump gun when walking over treacherous terrain or when out waterfowl hunting in salt marshes. I also use it when in grizzly country where I have the first two rounds consisting of bird shot and the last three rounds with magnum slugs.
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I Pumps, while looked down upon by some, are truly American Amen. Gil
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I'm just back from my umpteenth Southern SxS. These are great shoots, as much for the camaraderie as for the targets and gun vendors.
What would you think about the addition of an optional side event or two for slide action guns? Of course, it would be all true pairs. Classic pumps, while certainly very different from side by sides, are so very American and they can have a charm of their own. Viz the Winchester Model 42s.
The pumps wouldn't be in competition with the SxSs. Just an event on the side and some extra fun. Many of you enjoy both types of guns. What are your thoughts?
Bruce
I think the idea sux. Let pump gun guys go and start their own associations, set up web sites, promote their own choice of gun and set up their own shoot events. It sounds like you want them to piggy back on work of so many others who devoted time and energy to get side by side associations started. Reminds me of the lazy grasshopper and industrious ant fable. Why couldn't a guy bring along his pump gun to shoot, as long as he shot the double portion as well? Is there a line of demarcation twixt double gunners and pump gunners, or are they sometimes one and the same? Perhaps a younger guy, with only a pump to shoot, could discover an interest in doubles if he was permitted to enjoy an event with his own gun. Reminds me that people who look down their noses at guys with a pump gun are usually not someone you'd care to spend a day afield with. Best, Ted "Never bet folding money against the man who shoots a well-worn pumpgun"-- Rudy Etchen shot a 870 for years, along with his Purdeys--
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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It sounds like you want them to piggy back on work of so many others who devoted time and energy to get side by side associations started. Reminds me of the lazy grasshopper and industrious ant fable. Bruce's idea seems like good marketing - if we want to someone to come along after all us grumpy old doublegunners, inviting pump guns shooters (and others) and showing them the sublime joys of double guns might not be a bad idea. Reminds me of recruiting . . . .
Last edited by Doverham; 09/20/13 12:54 PM.
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there.
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It sounds like you want them to piggy back on work of so many others who devoted time and energy to get side by side associations started. Reminds me of the lazy grasshopper and industrious ant fable. Bruce's idea seems like good marketing - if we want to someone to come along after all us grumpy old doublegunners, inviting pump guns shooters (and others) and showing them the sublime joys of double guns might not be a bad idea. Reminds me of recruiting . . . . Do you think we should point out that in real life, the ant has about a two week gig, no matter how hard he works, and the grasshopper dies at the end of summer no matter how much food he has around him? Or, that it is a rare day that this board has more then perhaps 100 people looking at it, at any given time? Or, that license fees collected by DNR departments across the country have been in a down hill slide for two or three decades, with fewer people interested in outdoor pursuits that include shooting? No, we wouldn't want to be proactive or inclusive. Just let it rot on the vine. Best, Ted
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I think we should include them in discussion here on this board. The classics anyway. That should lead to some lively discussions.
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Skeet is in freefall in these parts, as the NSCA game has drawn us away. Until recently our club fielded a full squad of M-42 shooters annually for a NSSA .410 event. We always had fun but 42s now turn out for NSCA .410 events......even winning. CH, RU, and B1 used repro 42s at the state .410 shoot (23 entries) this past June.
Also, separate pump and SxS events drew about equal numbers of shooters at state. In general, the pump side events are better populated vs SxSs.
Sam
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Skeet is in freefall in these parts, as the NSCA game has drawn us away. Until recently our club fielded a full squad of M-42 shooters annually for a NSSA .410 event. We always had fun but 42s now turn out for NSCA .410 events......even winning. CH, RU, and B1 used repro 42s at the state .410 shoot (23 entries) this past June.
Also, separate pump and SxS events drew about equal numbers of shooters at state. In general, the pump side events are better populated vs SxSs.
Sam I don't know for sure but: is there a rule against shooting pump guns in registered shoots of any gauge?? I shoot four hundred and ten and twenty eight gauge in open registered sporting clays events. Of course my scores are low compared to the twelve guns, but I take ample doses of blood thinners and slickers and can't take the recoil and when I do shoot twelve gun it's a three quarter ounce load. I shoot only for the pure enjoyment of shooting sporting clays. Sometimes I'll shoot a four ten pump gun or four ten drop in tubes. If it's a side by side event I don't shoot, simple enough. Watched a eight year old boy shoot the crap out clays several weeks ago. Shot a little twenty gun Remington automatic????? IMHO: The pump guns separate the men from the boys.....  Just ran across a winchester 42 with a solid rib, scratched up but not shot much. Poo hoo, I just purchase a Browning 42 Grade V for my Grandson. I think the Mrs. would shoot me if a bought another . . . 
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Junnie, There is no rule against use of the 1/2 oz .410 in any 12, 20, or 28 ga NSCA or NSSA event. I'm sure you know this and are jesting. I haven't tried a 42 in a main event, but have used M-12 16s, and various 20s......mostly with 3/4 oz weenies. I don't imagine you could enter your 42 in a SxS event. Solid ribs are my favorite 42s, although the VR repros make really steady range guns (and ideal candidates for choke tubes). But, no, it is not possible to have too many 42s.  Sam
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Over the years there haven't been too many rumblings on pump threads or remarks that have stuck to the classics--M12, M42, M17, M31 and M37. There's been a few you-know-jOe "bumper jack" remarks which have actually been funny. (I know if he can shoot a turkey with an auto SBE, he has to have a spot somewhere in his heart for pumps or at least in his 4x4 to change tires.) As long as we don't have "pimp my pump" threads and keep it to a minimum, most will tolerate our nostalgic backsliding. 
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