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 Helistop anyone? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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"Helistop" is not one of the registered trademarks shown in the 1922 V-C catalog (must've come along later), although Vercar is.
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Any chance they were also modells' like:
PIONNIER
HELISTOP
HELICOBLOC
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The other trademarks listed in the 1922 catalog are Helicobloc, Helice Grip, Colonial, Vercar, and a stylized VC. They were touting the "Helice Grip" system in particular in that catalog, which included a very interesting and unique advertisement featuring WWI's surviving ace of aces (75 kills), Captain Rene Fonck. Who told readers that with his Helice Grip . . . "the birds fall like Krauts!"
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I hate to jump into this thread but I was reading through trying to gain some more knowledge about a V-C that I just put on layaway... and wouldn't you know, Raimey just posted a picture of the V-C 16 gauge Helistop that I just put on layaway!!! So here's what I know about it. Someone directed me to the 1939 V-C catalogue (I will post a link) and sent me to page 25, where there happens to be a drawing identical to the helistop I just purchased. I don't pretend to know any French but it seems that in 1939 there were 5 models of sxs offered. PIONNIER - HELISTOP - HELICOBLOC - and then a sideplate version HELICOBLOC and HELIDUPLEX. All of which come with a variety of options. I have no background in French whatsoever. maybe this catalogue can add to the current discussion but I wouldn't mind someone telling me anything they could about the HELISTOP pictured above as well. http://www.verney-carron.com/pdf/catalogue-1939-FR-Verney-Carron.pdf
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 Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Raimey Yes it is the one pictured above on this page. I put it on layaway at Cabelas so I could do some research before I plunged headfirst into a gun I didn't know much about. However after reading this post I think ill run right back out there to pick it up this weekend. For being 6 1/4 pounds and pre-WWII its tight and closes (as doverham put it) with a sound like an 8 lb perazzi. I was also very impressed with the slim lines of the gun. It seems very well made, and the stop is quite interesting (although the hidden stop is moreso) here is the link to Cabelas ad for the gun Verney Carron Helistop - Cabelas
Last edited by jj hawkins; 03/06/15 11:30 AM.
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Helistop anyone? Kind Regards, Raimey rse Raimey, HELICE-GRIP is nothing but a commercial name of V-C action (patent No 577296 of 1924). http://www.medwed-hunt.ru/MedwedPosts.aspx?pid=2996251+2+3+HELICE-GRIP = HELICOBLOC 2+3+HELICE-GRIP = HELISTOP 3+HELICE-GRIP = HELIDUPLEX Regards, Igor www.shotguncollector.com
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Many thanks Robertovich for the effort. Allow me a bit of time to digest the combinations. Have you additional information on the "stop" itself?
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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