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I'm no lawyer, but...
Seems that the shipping dealer was acting as an agent of the seller, thus you should have recourse against both the seller and the shipping dealer, as well as UPS through their insurance (if purchased). Take lots of pics of the gun and the packaging as it arrived at your location. If it arrived today, take the pics today. If it's a digital camera, make sure the calendar and clock are set for today, and display a time stamp in the pics. Save all of the packaging.
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I can't be too bad, my dogs will kiss me.
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RGS:
That break looks like you took a picture of the one I had and posted it. Dave fixed it for about $500 and I had a middle man, because I sent it back to the dealer I bought the gun from. I am sure he had some type of mark up on work. I want to say it took about 6-8 weeks to get it back. The guy does great work - you really can't see repair.
If you really love the gun and are going to keep it the wrist will probably be stronger after the repair. The modern epoxies are stronger than the wood fibers, and they will probably put some type of rod in the wrist. I have probably gone through a case of shells since I got mine back with no ill effect.
Best of Luck, Chicago (Mike)
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Chicago, Thanks for the news. I spoke with Craig at Susquehanna Stockworks this afternoon. He is only 3 1/2 hours from me. Once he gives me his opinion after looking at the pics, I told him I would drive the stock to him to examine. I will never deal with a lawyer again, so I imagine I will be stuck with this gun as is.
Bill
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RGS,
If you find you need a second opinion I would recommend Toby Leeds without reservation. He is a friend and incredible stockmaker and gunsmith. He does do repairs as two of my guns have been to him for similiar work.
Be aware that if you needed this gun bent for fit you will not be able to do so now.
Mike
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RGS:
Best of luck and I have also heard great things about Toby. I am no expert, but that repair looks pretty straight forward, and I am sure your fellow will do a nice job.
Too bad about recourse. I would at least take pictures (dated) and paper UPS to death on it. Can't hurt and shipper will know if insured. For that matter if you take packaging to local UPS vendor they may be able to scan and tell you if insured.
Utah: Good thought on bending stock, and I thought I read some thread about a repair where the fellow made sure the gun still had at least a 1/2" of bend after repair. My recollection is the work was done on a Boss. It was not clear to me if that meant you could bend stock after repair.
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RGS:
Not to beat a dead horse but it has really offended my sensibilites that you are getting no recourse on this. You have probably already thought of this but if you paid by check have you tried to stop payment. If by credit card contested that.
Best of luck....Chicago (Mike)
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Chicago, Paid by check. Cleared my bank last Friday. I may come out ok. The seller may be an honest man. I know his dealer said the gun was not cracked when it left his shop, so why would the seller care? The dealer should be held at fault. As I said, one pice of bubble wrap that was not big enough to wrap around the soft vinyl case inside a single thickness cardboard box that was 6" square is what caused this. UPS is not really to blame. The dealer was responsible. My loss.
Bill
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Inform the seller that the gun he sold you arrived damaged. End of story. Stop speculating on whose fault it is on his end, it doesn't matter, he sold you a complete gun in a certain condition you agreed upon, it is his responsibity to get it to you that way. Stop moaning and take action, jeez.
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Hansli: I dont think he was moaning, just sorting through his thoughts.
RGS: Sounds like good news, and if you keep it enjoy it. I have owned a couple of Sauers for 30 years, and they were 30 years old when I got them. No clue how many rounds through the 20. Only recently had first repairs done, and they were minor trigger work.
Gone across the channel of late, but still own and occasionally use Sauers.
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