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Information available as of Spring, 2013 courtesy of Dr Jim Stubbendieck.

The Rochester Ordnance shotguns included 23 Ideal Grades and 1,512 Field Grades for a total of 1,535 side lock shotguns. Eight had the Wild Fowl option (usually 3-inch chambers and a reinforced barrel loop).

William Brophy did not mention that Fulton and Hunter Special box lock shotguns were also shipped to Rochester Ordnance. Fultons (507) and Hunter Specials (186) accounted for nearly a third of the 2,228 military shotguns.

Dr Jim found a 20 gauge Field and a .410 Fulton in the last RO order, but there was no indication in the records if they received the military markings. Possibly officer requisitions?

William Brophy's book is titled "L.C. Smith Shotguns"...why do you think he should mention, serialize or detail Fulton's and Hunter Specials...?.....

Most intelligent people understand what this book is about and why all the gun manufacturing totals are for L.C. Smith shotguns from Syracuse through Marlin, and not Fulton's and Hunter Specials.

The initial poster is asking specifically about an L.C. Smith shotgun barrel marking, not Fulton and Hunter Specials or the Naval gun parts that Hunter manufactured for the U.S. Navy, or any other drivel.

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Why ? Because Fulton boxlocks are included and a part of Hunter serialization, and most intelligent people have read this in both Brophy and Houchin's books.

Brophy briefly discusses Fulton, Fulton Special and Hunter Special shotguns on page 124. His Serial Numbers By Years on p. 207 "include all types of L.C. Smith, Fulton and Hunter Shotguns"

Most intelligent people enjoy learning.

Tom,
A thought--- how are other manufacturers' Ordnance guns stamped? Do they have the same "USA-F" stamp, or is the last digit something other than "F"? Perhaps Walt can answer this and shed some light.

Briefly is an "over statement" for sure....

Brophy also mentions the bolt action Rangers on the next page, very briefly though....LOL.....

Really glad you and Laxy are on top of it.....must be significant to someone...."keep up the good work"....

"must be significant to someone" who might purchase Dr Jim's new book and check page 114
http://bluebookofgunvalues.com/Products/Product_Detail.aspx?id=538

It's significant to those of us who wish to give intelligent responses to legitimate questions------

Guys
Although this mystery remains unresolved, many thanks the your contributions; and also for the lively side debate.
Tom