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Gentlemen,
Any ideas on why so many older doubleguns have the chokes sawed off? I am talking guns that have had little more than two inches removed just eliminating the chokes. I'm thinking perhaps the owners were missing what they were shooting at?
Thanks
Kurt
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I would bet most were sawed shorter to remove all or most of the choke. Done by "gunsmiths" who didn't have the tools to open up chokes and/or maybe the owner wanted both shorter barrels AND more open chokes. My dad's lifetime model 11 Remington had the barrel shortened for both reasons, for quail hunting over dogs.
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Jim,
Thanks for the reply! I assume that new guns with open chokes were somewhat rare then? At least not readily available?
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Blame Robert Churchill for the cutting down of a number of British guns - owners thought their long barrels very unfashionable when churchill was pushing his XXV in the 1930s and the legacy of this lasted well into the 70s.
People simply had long barrels cut down for reasons of fashion!
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The Brits always refer to them as "sawn" off, but we in North America seem to use "sawed" off. I wonder why?
Bob
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The Brits always refer to them as "sawn" off, but we in North America seem to use "sawed" off. I wonder why? As Winston Churchill, I believe, once said, "We are a common people separated by mere language."
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Sometimes we speak sawed off English; but not always.
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Actually it was George Bernard Shaw:
"England and America are two countries separated by a common language"
one of my favorites of his;
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
or more to the point;
"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul"
Cheers
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If the owner wanted to hunt Quail, and not shred the bird (if he hit it) the barrels often recieved a "Hacksaw Choke", or so I was told.
Last edited by postoak; 03/27/07 11:07 PM.
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I've had a couple of guns with only a portion of the chokes trimmed back. My brother owns one a 12 ga. CE Fox with 27 5/8" barrels.
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