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Non original stock with an unusually high comb. Have at it with the rasp--ought to work out well and have nicer lines than at present. Looks like a good gun. As mentioned above leave the butt alone and just taper the comb.
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Wow. Somebody lost their behind on that one.
16" LOP
I'd take the pad off it and see where I was shooting. Then have it bent. Usually people complain about 3" drop Parkers.
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That forward comb point is very high. It could stand to have it shaved down like SKB and Eightbore mentioned. But it may look funny if you have to lower the comb so much it looks like the line of the comb is level with the barrels or you shave the heel down too much and the thing looks like a narrow stock. I think it may take a combination of bending and shaving to get what you may want. I think I'd consult a stock man if I were you. That stock has good grain direction in the wrist and should bend safely.
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Wow. Somebody lost their behind on that one.
16" LOP
I'd take the pad off it and see where I was shooting. Then have it bent. Usually people complain about 3" drop Parkers.
That is exactly what I did, and I am looking at most of the rib, and getting smacked in the face like I goosed its behind. I didn't realize bending the stock was an option because the guys with those 3" drop guns complain they can't bend them up to get better dimensions, I assumed you can't bend them down either. CHAZ
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Wouldn't the right order be:
1. Get LOP correct
2. Confirm pitch is correct (wrong pitch can contribute to face slap)
3. Bend
4. Shave if/as needed.
I wouldn't dispute anything SKB says, but in my conversations with stockers about bending, I have been told that 1/2" at the heel is optimistic. The PG is not going to help any, either.
Have you shot it at a pattern plate? I bought a gun recently that had different dimensions from what I had been fit to, but when I shot it at a pattern plate, it was on the money. Who knows why?
Last edited by Doverham; 05/16/13 08:53 AM.
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Just my thoughts but you might tweek a bit less pitch out of the stock (a bit at a time) as you shorten it. This should help with the cheek bite. But beware of to little pitch as it will let the butt slide down on firing. Do the test firings with a smooth bare butt so any tendency to slide down off the shoulder will show.
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This is a tricky subject with a lot of factors that may contribute to you getting smacked. Lots of good suggestions here for ways to fix it. I would also consider the following-
Perhaps the comb shape is odd. Is it thick or thin or in between? Thick combs can lead to rolling your head and contribute to cheek slap.
The stock does look to have an odd shape with the nose of the comb being quite high. The comb is quite steep with 1" difference between the nose and heel. I would reduce the comb height towards the nose and leave the drop at heel the same as it is now but heed Chuck's comments above.
The pitch looks strange also as the LOP to heel looks greater than the LOP to toe and the reverse should be the norm with a slightly more prominent LOP to toe.
I'm guessing that the combination of the comb angle and pitch angle are causing the gun to rotate excessively on recoil.
Remember that reducing the LOP will also reduce the drop at face as your head will move forward on the stock.
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Bending will have very little effect on the comb. Shave it and leave the heel as is.
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The gun has some mechanical problems as well. I got a good deal so I don't feel bad spending a little to make it "right." I talked to the gunsmith today and he is going to shave the stock for me both at the comb, and probably thin the sides to fit a butt plate. The stock is really thick.
I looked at the dimensions of the gun versus my fitting and the difference is 11/16" at the comb, and 9/16 at the heel. I will tell him that if it will take too much "height" out of the butt of the stock to leave the butt higher if needed. I don't think it is going to be a problem because the butt is a good 5" tall at the plate.
Thanks,
CHAZ
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I'd use either 5" or 5 1/8" as a minimum butt height. Less than that starts looking hacked. I believe 5 1/8" is the height of a #1 frame 12ga butt. If, after you shave the comb, you need the heel lower than what you can get while keeping the butt 5 1/8", get it bent.
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