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WildCattle #319826 04/01/13 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: WildCattle
Herenyi seems to mean Hungarian.
I have access to one (Hungarian).
Only ~ 7 million people speak Hungarian and the language is unlike anything else in Europe or elsewhere.
I'll ask.
WC-

It turns that (once again) I was wrong.
My friend says that the marking means "Gothard" (First name) "Herenyi" (last name) "Stirling" possibly street name, "Szombathely" (Town).
Gothard would be an antiquated first name. and Herenyi means "from Hereny", which is a suburb of Szombathely, but would be a last name for sure.
It happens that my friend's brother lives in that very town and might look into the matter.
I have searched for a possible Stirling street in Szombathely, but I could not find one. However, I imagine that very few old street names would have survived the 20th century.
I'll report if I hear something new.
All the best,
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Lovely effort. I thought that might be the case as the reversal of names is very common for the Hungarian firearms merchants. I find it difficult to believe that the Belgian makers, or other subcontractors, could get the name correct every time.

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WildCattle #321453 04/14/13 10:26 PM
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A few things I stumbled across:


J. Girard & Cie, 48, rue de l'Echiquier, Paris - 1907 advert w/ Le Choke - Bored Excelsior


Pourde Pyroxlée - 1895



http://books.google.com/books?id=ElE9AAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA59&lpg=RA1-PA59&dq=Acier+Special+Pour+Poudre+Pyroxyl%C3%A9e&source=bl&ots=m42H00ZHxf&sig=kBHoIFqZ9QPDGl6fSvjQrz9OagI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=n2JrUdSnM5Ge8gT5hoDwCA&ved=0CDkQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=Acier%20Special%20Pour%20Poudre%20Pyroxyl%C3%A9e&f=false

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WildCattle #321485 04/15/13 08:46 AM
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An interesting Excelsior ad (from "I know all"--and the Internet wasn't even around then!!!)

You could give an Excelsior an 8 day shooting trial--for free.

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Marc:
Thanks for the lead and I cannot make out the address:








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ellenbr #322315 04/22/13 09:21 PM
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That is a kick a$$ gun.
Chopper lump Whitworth, side clips, great engraving, the whole shabang.
Address is 9, rue des filles st Thomas, Paris. It's in the 2nd district.
Not far from Faure-Lepage nor from Lefaucheux/Rieger....
I would guess 1900-1910 time frame. The whitworth SN should be able to help on that.
On that subject,does anybody have a time frame table for the Whitworth tube numbers?
That would be a great resource...
All the best,
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P.S> I don't know who marked the "helmet head" on the flats

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The 9 could be a 2.
I don't have any trace of that address being Mode's. That's why it would be nice to date the gun from the Whitworth tube numbers...
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I could not recognize it nor too could not find it for C. Modé. I believe that is why Marc forwarded the listing to me. Pretty high number for Sir Joseph Whitworth tubes and I was trying to recall if all tubes wore a consecutive number or if some tubesets had the same number or not. Crossedchisels should have the range written on the back of his hand. Like Sauer's 3 Ringe, each tubeset(I don't think single tube) was accompanied by a certificate and was a warranty that accompanied the tubeset in the even of tube failure.

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WC:
I violated 1st principles as I didn't even look at the provided description:

"C. Modé Armurier, 9 Rue de Filles, St. Thomas, Paris"

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Seems Kilby acquired/peddled Whitworth steel tubes in tubesets:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=130190&page=1

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post230400
Matska - Whitworth 20390 - with the Sauer 21887 makes one wonder to whom the number belonged. Was T. Kilby the Whitworth raw tube source?

Feodor Osipovitch Matska peddled his offerings till circa 1907 so a tubeset with Whitworth #19595 would have been prior to that so a sporting weapon with a Whitworth number in the 24k range would be in your date range estimation.

Curious why C. Modé picked them up in singles.

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Raimey
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