April
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30
Who's Online Now
5 members (AGS, HMAK, Ted Schefelbein, JBG, 1 invisible), 1,129 guests, and 4 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics38,445
Posts544,848
Members14,406
Most Online1,258
Mar 29th, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#320961 04/11/13 02:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
Granger Offline OP
Boxlock
**
OP Offline
Boxlock
**

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
Hello
Does anyone know the patent number of the sidelock Boss (sxs). Some say it was invented by Scott, but I can not find a trace. Dallas Donald said that Robertson is the inventor, but he does not mention the patent number strangely.
thank you
excuse my English!

Granger #321026 04/11/13 01:30 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 777
Likes: 36
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 777
Likes: 36
Which part of the sidelock are you referring to? Most parts will have no patent as they originate at the dawn of time.
The 'spear' interceptor sear was never patented as Boss used it in most of his actions although a similar hook system does appear in his early patent 2833 of 1882.
The usual cocking lever is not covered by any of his patent and is basically a Roger's patent.
The ejectors are usually a variant on any of his 3 patents with Holland 5834 & 11623 of 1887 or 16691 of 1888.
Later he used his own ejector patent 2988 of 1897.

Last edited by Toby Barclay; 04/11/13 01:30 PM.
Granger #321038 04/11/13 02:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,544
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,544
I think Granger is looking at the current Boss SLE as if it were an invention in its entirety, like the Beesley of 1880 or the Anson & Deeley of 1875. As Toby points out, it was not.

Granger #321053 04/11/13 04:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
Granger Offline OP
Boxlock
**
OP Offline
Boxlock
**

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
yes, like the H & H royal design patented by henry and robertson Holand or Beesley in 1880 etc ...
but the boss side by side (sidelock) , some say it is patented by scott. but I found no trace of the patent!!!
I do not know if I made ​​myself understand

Granger #321263 04/13/13 07:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
Granger Offline OP
Boxlock
**
OP Offline
Boxlock
**

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
I talked about it, it is a mechanic found on SxS Boss :



Granger #321271 04/13/13 08:51 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,164
Likes: 11
Sidelock
****
Offline
Sidelock
****

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,164
Likes: 11
Granger,
I would refer you to;" The British Shotgun", Vol,3,Page 275 [Authors,Baker & Crudgington].From the text we learn that two patents, 18,135 of 1895 and 1847 of 1897 were awarded in the names of, John Robertson,trading as,Boss & Co,for a lock safety device.The illustration of this patent is the same/similar to the posted lock pictures.


Roy Hebbes
Granger #321342 04/14/13 03:39 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
Granger Offline OP
Boxlock
**
OP Offline
Boxlock
**

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 26
thank you !
but I do not understand why some especially here in France say that the concept was invented by Scot??


Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2024 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.062s Queries: 28 (0.042s) Memory: 0.8201 MB (Peak: 1.8988 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-04-20 13:55:50 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS