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My 6 lb 1 oz 700 doing what it was made for. Along the Snake River in Idaho. No place for sissy guns!
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I have what I believe is a 701 as it has good figure in the stock w/ drop points.The barrels are,uncut,27"s w/a tight Ic & mod.The barrel marks are NB which puts it at 1962/serial #1323XX= 1961.The rib is marked "Carlton Model" Russell Hillsdon,Chichester.It is a 2 3/4",3 1/4 ton gun w/ejectors & auto safety,straight grip.The wt is 6lb 10 oz.This is the 3 rd 700 series gun I have owned and all have given me good service.I would like more information on the "Carlton Model" reference.I'm unable to post pictures. Could also be a 702. They had drop points. How did the Brits ever manage to come up with that numbering sequence: 700=basic gun; 702=next grade up; 701=highest grade?
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The 701 has almost full coverage of very decent scroll engraving, "Safe" marked in gold + the "Spaniels Ears" where the forend wood meets the FE iron & the top lever filed up like the Proprietary Grade I shown on this thread does.
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Spaniel's Ears? I've often wondered what that extra effort was called on a forend. Thank you for that insight.
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Thanks for the informative post, Damascus. The TWC & Co who fitted your extra barrels would probably have been Tom Chambers of TW Chambers & Co. In the early 50's he had premises in the same building as Bonehills and did work for them, Fords etc etc, as well as on his own account.
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I must learn how to post photos. I bought one of the 728s from Bill Jaques in 1980. It was the first gun I had ever purchased by mail. He said it had the nicest wood on it of any he had seen. It has an incredible piece of wood that I wish I could share. The only draw back is the 25" barrels but I killed 100s of doves before I read that longer barrels were better. Since acquired a Ruger Red label and a Parker repo with 28" barrels. I need to go back to shooting the Webley and try to forget what I have read.
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Greetings, Excellent thread and history! I've been looking for some info on these side by sides for a while now and have been coming up kind of short. I've tried contacting Webley & Scott in the UK, however it seems that the current company doesn't keep the the original records from when the factory shut down in the late 70s. I belive I own a model 700 (not 100% sure) and I'm looking to possibly date the year it was manufactured. The serial number is 145871. Any info would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance! Spoe
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Hi Spoe. Your gun looks like a 700 and with a serial number starting 145XXX my list of numbers puts the date of manufacture as 1976.
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If you look on the barrel flats you will see a date stamp .It will consist of a circle wtih two letters and a number .The letters are the date code the number is the veiwers id .
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According to the Scott book by Crawford and Whatley: "Approximately 85,000 double guns, of which the Model 700 series accounted for one third, were produced by Webley & Scott from 1897 to 1979." That's close to 30,000 700 series guns. A particularly impressive total when you consider that they were all post-WWII production, when the British gun trade was in much worse shape than it had been prior to the war.
Not sure, but I don't believe the 85,000 figure includes guns made for other firms. They must have made a few thousand for Army & Navy alone.
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