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Obviously engraving and wood type have a lot to do with final cost. But is there a way we could get an estimate on what everything but that will cost? I'm not talking exact figures but are we talking $2000, $10000, $20000 . . . .

I haven't asked for a place in line yet because I have no idea what this is going to cost.

By the way I would vote for a 16/20.

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Dawson,
I don't think anyone can provide an accurate account of what this gun will ultimately cost. But, some of the swags from earlier were thought to be 'ballpark'. They ran from around $7k to $10k for a gun without engraving.

I'll stick my neck out a bit again and take another swat at it.
figure Ken gets $100k invested in start-up costs. I figure 100 guns total might be a realistic estimate, but it might be half that number. So figure $1k to 2k worth of amortization,
$2k to $3k for the action
$1k x 2 for the barrels = $2k
$2k for stocking labor
$200-700 for checkering
$500-1500 for wood
$1k for fitting and finishing the barrels and action (blueing, casehardening, etc)
$0 to $?K for engraving.

So, I'm thinking around $10k without engraving. Ken may be far enough thru his planning to provide a more accurate swag.

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Originally Posted By: Recoil Rob
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Mr. Ken, I just saw the survey, there were only 10 responses, and 7 were for 28/20, 2 two were for 16 & one for 12.

OTOH I just reread the first 10 pages of this thread and came away with 12 requests, two for 28/20's, two requests for 12's and eight requests for 16/20's. (eightbore still wants an eight bore.)


Good question here. I really hope this project gets off the ground and running. Like someone said early on in the discussion, there were quite a few that looked at the RBL's and passed because it was limited to only the 20ga. Count me in among that group and as voting for a 16/20 in the 3 commonly discussed barrell lengths (26, 28, & 30).

After seeing the Wesson rifle thread, it gives me hope that this project can fly too. Any further updates?

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KB ---- we will be making these Lefevers with the same eye to the quality of the Wesson. Ken



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Ken, sorry to beat a [hopefully not] dead horse, but after reading the replies here, I think you would be surprised at the response if you offered a 16/20 combo. No one else is doing this and it would be a fantastic niche to fill in the marketplace, especially since there are so many other 20's available. What upland hunter in his right mind wouldn't lust after such a combo, custom made to his own specs? I sure as heck would.

Keep up the good work.:)


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Mark, I am always interested in the wants and opinions of this readership. We need to hear a great deal of feedback in regards to a 16 ga. bbl or 16/20 combo. If there is enough demand to justify the cost of making up a number of bbl blanks, it can be done. Ken



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The choice in gauges is not one one hundredth of the reason why Steve Lamboy discontinued his project. The choice in gauges will not make or break the Lefever project either. If I want a "New Lefever", the choice of gauges will be the least of my worries. We have made our suggestions, and now we will wait for the brochure. By the way, I had many ICD guns pass through my hands to customers before I decided to place an order for myself, a ten. You know the rest of that story. Good luck, Ken.

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I'm hoping for a 28. I'm just afraid that 16, while it has is devotees, isn't produced often for the simple reason that there is far less demand for that guage and, unlike 28, a lot more older guns available.

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Ken,
After talking to you I may be interested in a 20/28 for my daughter. I wish there was some way to fit me and her with the same gun, perhap a plastic stretch stock. (joke) The Lefever Doug did looks really good and should be your way soon.
jas


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I cast my vote for a 16ga.

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