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Finally got around to updating some insurance photos and happened to notice these four guns sitting next to one another and thought I'd snap a quick picture. . . No point to this point to this post other to share some photos I thought other wood lovers on the board might enjoy. I have some more modern guns with nice wood, but there is something special that the patina of 100 years adds to the gun. I guess there were wood lovers 100+ years ago also.  (Clockwise from upper-left) W.C. Scott - 1891 Francotte - 1897 Wm. Schaefer & Son (Lindner) - circa 1890 Charles Daly - circa 1875 (My apologies for the photo quality (especially after following MP's post.)) Ken
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Absolutely gorgeous! I wish my Lancaster and Clayborough were in such condition. Jim Haynes
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Ken, here's a Kirkwood stock from the early 80s with that French laquer finish. Daryl 
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Here is the wood on a 101 year old Remington --  
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Here is the wood on a 101 year old Remington --
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How about a Barratt & Son, nee William Powell, #2 gun of a pair. Made somewhere around 1900 
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My wife will kill me if I start another PictureTrail  SOMEBODY ARCHIVE THESE PICS!! (and you Ithaca guys gotta have some great wood to post)
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Not 100 but still old wood on a LC Smith  
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Good to see it's not just modern Italian guns with the glamour. Very nice.
You know which firm used some great wood over a century ago? MacNaughton. And, probably Dickson. I saw some lovely stuff at the shop in Edinburgh.
Hope this thread pulls some more photos out of members. These are great.
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Montana, Just for you,by special request 
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1902 Lefever EE - Damascus Everything north of the wood extension is old.  
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B Grade Syracuse 16ga ejector  
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Reb, I see your Syracuse B Grade. The stock is quite unusual, with the extra carved panel around the side panel. That is usually found on higher grades like the D.
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is that a "J" Barratt & Son from London ? as my father inlaw has just passed over to me a rather fine BLE by this very maker - and I cannot find any history at all on the maker.
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not best of pics, #2 Flues.  Best, Mark
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Terry, that's what I'm talking about. Beautiful. What year?
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Montana, The gun has a bit of an interesting history.It has one set of nitro proof marks that would normally put it in the 1896-1904 era however the Macnaughton records have it listed as a best ejector with damascus barrels delivered in 1923.The concensus is that the action and barrels were proofed in the white during the earlier period and the gun was finished and delivered some 20 years later.The barrels are 29" x 2 1/2" x .023 x .023 and measure as built and proofed. I had to pry it out of the fingers of a good friend of mine in England about 5 years ago.I found another composite pic I had on file and will attach below. 
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Terry, that is a LOVELY gun!
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I can't help but wonder how CHARLES DARWIN would explain the appreciation we have for the natural accident of nature that is wood?
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I have really enjoyed the thread and the old guns that have been shared - beautiful. Some real stunners for sure.
Anybody else got one they'd like to share? :-)
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Just added 11 more sweet Elsies.
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Looks like a prime ribeye. Nice.
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Makes me want to melt all my plastic stocked guns.
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Yea yea yea its all fun and games until someone falls backwards and bangs their head!!!  I hope you guys are satisfied!!! I should be thankful that Walt didn't post any pictures of his high grade Ithacas!!! All the best
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Thanks Jack thanks alot, now I have two people to watch out for you and Walt!!!! All the best and apparently Jack you have the best!!!
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W.H. Wilson, London double flint shotgun circa 1805. 
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Montana,
The first picture you posted on 3/16 @ 10:47, what gun is that?
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Only one I got. Had a couple field grade NIDs. Like this Flusie better. Another member here had one at Vintagers. Liked his so much I bought this one.
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First was an Edinburgh Gun or skeleton action MacNaughton 1902 12 gauge.
Second is a 28 gauge Bozard from around 1890.
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I agree Jack that's one beautiful Flues!!! I've had the Flues and the NID and I feel that the NID is better mechanically and better balanced but both the Flues and the Crass(?) models seem to have better engraving/checkering and wood.
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I not so good understand,but I think that somebody need information about a W.E. BARRATT double gun.Tony Barclay of heritage guns can give an answer.Buy the way on this webside there is for the moment one for sell.info go to http://www.heritageguns.co.uk/hggramset.htm en click on stocklist inventory gun Nr 046 is a Barratt.Sorry my english is bad I am new to the forum and I live in Belgium. But I hope I helped.Marc Gettemans
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Welome to the forum Marc. You did very well with your English.
Thank you for posting the information. Terry
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  Stevens 5000. Yes, THAT Stevens! (you can tell by the crude checkering.) Go figure.
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Damn, I think that is pretty. Jake
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I would have to call that "El Tigre"! Awesome!!
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It's a Stevens "Royal"  Has a Redhead pad, beavertail forend, case colored receiver, and twin ivory beads! Just missing the oak & leather case. Don't know if it was ordered that way or done afterwards.
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(Clockwise from upper-left) W.C. Scott - 1891 Francotte - 1897 Wm. Schaefer & Son (Lindner) - circa 1890 Charles Daly - circa 1875 Ken, Is that the Lidner that you had at the Pintail C&B a couple of years ago?
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1930's vintage Walter Betts pigeon gun. It's pretty plain but the stock has a look and feel that you just can't get in a brand new gun. 
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Just think what we would have to pay for some of those blanks today for a re-stocking project. Makes me want to consider collecting old SxS's just for the wood.....
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I'll take three of each.......Gorgeous
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Just think what we would have to pay for some of those blanks today for a re-stocking project. Makes me want to consider collecting old SxS's just for the wood..... Hmmmmm, Isn't that a very significant part of it? Jake
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AyA 37 over-under from 1945. I know, I know, that recoil pad is pure ugliness, will change it soon... 
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(Clockwise from upper-left) W.C. Scott - 1891 Francotte - 1897 Wm. Schaefer & Son (Lindner) - circa 1890 Charles Daly - circa 1875 Ken, Is that the Lidner that you had at the Pintail C&B a couple of years ago? I think you are correct - I did shoot the Schaefer & Son that day. That was a great time with a great bunch of folks. Ken
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Marc (a BBS participant from Belgium) requested I post of few of his photos to this thread. The O/Us are a Masquelier and an Uggie. The SxS is a Wm. Richards of Liverpool. More photos to follow.    Tell us about the guns Marc.
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"I guess there were wood lovers 100+ years ago also."
Even longer than that- the Egyptians were putting veneers on furniture 4000 years ago, recognizing the beauty and rarity of certain species. Thanks for posting the pics; pretty stuff.
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Mike, HiYa Dude, good to see you on this board for a change.
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Montana, You like round bodies, here is my lowly Ideal (only around 70 years old)   (I refinished the stock and fitted the new pad - my first) JC(AL)
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Does anyone have an idea how old the wood that ended up on one of these marvelous doubles might be. Could the tree that produced the wood that was used on a 1914 gun have been planted in the 1700's or early 1800's? I've wondered about that for some time and this thread begs the question.
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Does anyone have an idea how old the wood that ended up on one of these marvelous doubles might be. Could the tree that produced the wood that was used on a 1914 gun have been planted in the 1700's or early 1800's? I've wondered about that for some time and this thread begs the question. I guess I got in on the tail end of the original thread and it sort of burned out. Any thoughts on this?
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Does anyone have an idea how old the wood that ended up on one of these marvelous doubles might be. Could the tree that produced the wood that was used on a 1914 gun have been planted in the 1700's or early 1800's? I've wondered about that for some time and this thread begs the question. I guess I got in on the tail end of the original thread and it sort of burned out. Any thoughts on this? Jorge, Oregon timberlot specialists in walnut say it takes between 50 and 80 years to get good wood with at least a twenty-eight inch diameter. They are using hybrids in some cases to better the production expected from European and eastern US stock.
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I am sorry I diden't see that I could give more info and I am glad to do that.I am sorry about my bad English but I do my best.
The second gun is made on a Merkel action for MASQUELIER but it is made in Ferlach it have the Ferlach proofmarks and it is engraved by R.Chind (Richard or Reinhard) I could not find info about him.It is rose en scroll and very well done.The SXS made by W.Richards in Liverpool is made in 1884 source Nigel Brown part II page 137 it is a high grade gun beautifull engraving 76 Cm barrels and in sublim condition.Later I want send some pictures about my Mario Beschi with the help of Ken Georgi
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