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Mark Twain said "Man is the lowest form of life on earth". He may have been correct. Most assuredly in a lot of respects. This is not a condemnation of pigeon shooting from me in any way. I have not had the opportunity to try it but certainly would if given the chance or if I had the $$$.

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Originally Posted By: eightbore
I understand the theory of Narcissism of Small Differences. I won't explain why that theory doesn't apply here, but I will continue to explain that the end of a pigeon's life in nature is usually more violent and full of suffering than the end of its life in the ring. That's where I stand on the subject. I don't think game birds normally die of old age in sleep.
I don't think the theory applies to our exchange. I was alluding to some of the intemperate posts I have seen here when someone stakes out a position. I never said gamebirds die of old age in their sleep. I also explained that I have no objection to pigeon shooting.

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I am disappointed that the poster Beagle deleted the reference to the the "narcissism of small differences" which I disagreed with. I stand corrected. I have found his post, which he did not delete.

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Originally Posted By: eightbore
I am disappointed that the poster Beagle deleted the reference to the the "narcissism of small differences" which I disagreed with. Such a low blow for him to delete his post. I will file his screen name away for future reference. I never, never, delete posts for any reason.
I assure you I have not deleted anything. Check pg. 6, 2nt from the bottom.

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Neither Henry Beston nor Mark twain, great writers though both may be, ever wrote any wordage that I can place above the Highest Authority in my life, that of the Word of God. And in that Word, in the book of Genesis, concerning the account of creation, after God created all other beings, including the birds, He created man on the sixth day. In verse 28 it is recorded that God blessed man, told them to be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.

This reference is not intended by me to show that by man's dominion over other living beings he has the right to abuse them. I certainly do not believe or ascribe to that. Some may feel my shooting of pigeons occasionally shows that I do. I disagree.
I referenced the creation account in Genesis to show that, regardless of what Beston believed, they ARE our underlings, as commanded by the Creator. And, regardless of what Twain thought, man is NOT the lowest form of life on the earth, but the HIGHEST, again, as the Creator spoke, and was created in the image of God himself.

Believe Beston if you will, believe Twain if you prefer. I choose to believe the infallible Scriptures.

With this post I respectfully withdraw from this discussion, because, as Daddy used to say, "A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."

All my best, SRH


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Thank you for Drew Hause for the St John poem. I have always loved it.

I had not thought this topic would provoke such discussion.

I think none bad for wanting or not wanting to shoot live pigeons.

I see little difference between pigeons shot in this way, quail I shoot either wild or preserve, and chickens in the grocery.


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Let talk about something less controversial.

How about them 'lectric collars?

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Sorry, Beagle, I found your post that I mistakenly though you had deleted. I,also, am out of here. Got to polish some pigeon guns. Don't shoot many flyers, but still pay dues annually to my pigeon club and to the Pennsylvania Flyers Association. It's a nostalgia thing.

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Originally Posted By: Chuck H
Let talk about something less controversial.

How about them 'lectric collars?


Speaking of animal rights the local humane society has some coon hound puppies up for adoption. If I adopt one and take it coon hunting will they repossess it? Should I send them trophy pictures of our coons? I can have all kinds of fun with that. Had a discussion with my long suffering wife about adopting a free coon puppy and found out that my seventh hunting dog would cost me about half our net worth.

We already have six bird dogs living in the house, I don't think we would even notice an added coon hound puppy.

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