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Sorry, I missed the second page of this topic. Being new doesn't help. Others have posted info that I seem to repeat -sorry.
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Again, I want to thank all who have responded. It appears that the only solution is to have new locks made for the AH, which appears to have never been finished. I pulled the forearm furniture off and there is no evidence of bluing or case colors. The rib is unmarked. I will post any results when they occur. Thanks again.
Larry
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Larry, I suggest you look to builders of muzzle loaders for help.Parts for ML pistol,may be adaptable to lockplate made to fit(for small 360).I can't answer as to cost of the work,but including these builders increases the chances of finding a reasonable price.Putting these rifles back together would be a worthy exercise. Mike
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FWIW have a look on the < Track of the Wolf > site for parts and pieces. I would think you should be able to find something adaptable. The biggest challenge to me would be getting the "correct" hammers - so that everything lines up properly.
Nice guns and should / could be brought back to working order, if not by you by a "hobbyist" that can do most of the work for himself. JMHO --- John
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I have looked at Track of the Wolf and their locks are more suited to muzzleloaders. I have also communicated with several members here who have offered a lot of help by email. I will post any results. Larry
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Hopefully they can be resurrected! Old good rifles aren't being made any more!
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In gunmaking ceters like Gardone and Eibar there are outlets that sell semifinished locks, both hammer and hammerless. Try OMPS in Gardone, the address is www.omps.it. Making a lock from scratch is not easy, but it in this day of 3D copiers and CNC machines it should not be too hard to accomplish at a reasonable cost.
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Larry, 6830 is an "in the white" Alex Henry. It did have sidelocks at some time. Otherwise, the stock could not have been inlet and the gun could not have been proved. Somebody removed them and lost them. That's an expensive problem. Maybe your friend removed them for safety??? I do own AH #7064 which is a .450 express double rifle and is in the white. It's not engraved nor case colored, and the rib is not matted. It's proved however and it is complete. Dickson's records shows it "in stock" in 1900 ( and never sold). It seems like a few of those are around. Kirby Hoyt at Vintage Doubles also has (had?) a .360 double in the white. He might help you with pictures of the locks he has. And there are the guns shown in the double gun journal as described in the thread. The other one does not look to me to be an Henry. The only Henry feature is the lightening machining in the action bar. But that was not an exclusive Henry feature. It would be great to rehabilitate both of them though. Best regards, WC
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Thanks again for all of the good thoughts. I think all have agreed that the second rifle is a Birmingham guild gun and definitely not a Henry. I have found a few photos of apparently identical side lock guns similarly engraved with a couple of different names (retailers?) on the side locks. Larry
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Obviously I do not follow this forum often enough. I am the Steve Nelson who is currently rebuilding the Alex Henry .360 DAMASCUS double in question. No one seemed to mention the one factor that made this project worth pursuing, that being the Damascus barrels. Thanks to a very generous client (Mr. Buffum) I have a head start on the locks. No promises, since I have a couple (!) projects for my clients but I plan to have the rifle available for viewing at the Beinfield (Firearms Engravers Guild of America) Exhibition in Las Vegas, Nevada, in January, 2014.
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