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Thanks for posting the drawings Doug. After seeing the ads for the David McKay Brown guns showing their trigger plate action internals, I was especially interested in the Dickinson hammer springs. These appear unlike anything I've seen before.

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HI:

Am I wrong to think that this "Turkish" gun is over priced by about $600.00? While it is a nice looking gun, It is the same price as a Beretta Silver Pigeon 1. Which gun would hold its value better?

I may be living in ignorance, but the price seems to be quite inflated.

Stay well my friends,

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Originally Posted By: Franchi
HI:

Am I wrong to think that this "Turkish" gun is over priced by about $600.00? While it is a nice looking gun, It is the same price as a Beretta Silver Pigeon 1. Which gun would hold its value better?

I may be living in ignorance, but the price seems to be quite inflated.

Stay well my friends,

Leomat



Hi Leomat:

For openers, Beretta does not make a 16 gauge shotgun, check it out.........

http://www.berettausa.com/shop-by-department/firearms/field-shotguns/

Beretta's website says no 16's....about a year ago I called the Beretta Gallery in Dallas and they said without pause, "We do not make any 16 gauge guns"...?.....Maybe that has changed recently, if so, I'm not aware of it.....

Beretta did make some 16's before WWII .....

I also did not know you could buy any new side by side Beretta for this kind of money ($1599.00), am I wrong...?

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Originally Posted By: Franchi
HI:

Am I wrong to think that this "Turkish" gun is over priced by about $600.00? While it is a nice looking gun, It is the same price as a Beretta Silver Pigeon 1. Which gun would hold its value better?

I may be living in ignorance, but the price seems to be quite inflated.

Stay well my friends,

Leomat



I'd have to disagree,

The Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 currently retails for $2250 and usually sell for around $2000.

Beretta's base SXS... the 471 Silverhawk retails for $3850.


You'd be hard pressed to find a comparable, new, quality SXS in the same price range as the Dickinson. If you know of something, please share.

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Hi All:

I got caught comparing apples to oranges!

From what I hear, people are paying about $1600.00 for the Beretta SP1 despite what the list price is.

I guess that it costs much more to make a SxS than an O/U.

If a gun is a 16 gage, does it cost more than other gages? Sometimes this may be true in the smaller guns like the.410.


Some people refer to the SP1 an an entry level shot gun. Is the Cabela's gun also considered an entry level gun? I guess compared to the price of Beretta SxS it may well be also considered an entry level gun.

In any case, thanks for the information.

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2 1/4" is a high comb for my tastes. Simple enough to shave it down and refinish, but still.....

Not sure why most modern guns have such high combs? I don't like seeing a lot of rib when I look down the barrels, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Not everyone shoots at fast rising birds.

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To me, those dimensions are about perfect. But then again, I hunt quail.

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They fit me very well as manufactured......I hunt game in several countries and clays etc....these are really good guns in my opinion.......works for me.......... I use a slip on leather Pachmayr pad usually.......

20 gauge S & W foreground.....16 gauge Dickinson background....subtle differences......








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Doug, how did your Dickinson's barrels check out for accuracy?

I just picked up a used 16 from the Cabelas in Rogers MN that looks to be virtually unfired. It's just like yours, even the double triggers, a first for me. Not sure when I'll get out and shoot it, but have to do that within their 30 day return period. They had a new one with single trigger too, but the bolt was so sticky you just about had to bruise your thumb to open it.

They also had a 20 and a 12, both minty. None of them on the Cabelas website listings.

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Hi Jay,

The new 16 patterns really nice IMO...I've shot it quite a bit, using B & P 16 F2 Classics 1 1/16 oz, some Eley 16 duck loads that I have several cases of and my handloads of course, also some Remington field load factory 7's & 7.5's........

I'm very pleased with the gun and it shoots about like my 20 which is a fixed choke S&W as pictured above.....I prefer the full and modified chokes out here and those are the chokes I leave in the gun....

Glad to hear you found one, I think you will really like it.....

What do you think of the gun, now that you have one in your hands, pictures.......?

Best Regards,


Doug



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