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ivans;
Because of the help provided by Mr Furman ( of this BBS) the chart is available via e-mail. I don't know how to import it to this site. I'm better at gunstocks than computers. If you will contact me at thestockdr@riflemag.com I will send it to you.
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DES/TSD thank you. I just sent you an email.
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to pokslok where is this chart from? Could you mention the source?
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To all who asked for the chart. Frustration reigns right now. I have not been able to successfully complete the transfer of the information. Last night, after several different attempts and variations of transfer methods, I become unable to comply to the requests. The e-mail addresses given were all returned undeliverable. I believe machines do have it in for me!
The PDF file came through great! Thanks David Furman. I have been unable to forward them. Something is blocking this for some reason in MY computer. Still trying to get it done. I have three deadlines in the shop to meet and so please be patient. I will get it sent ASAP
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to pokslok where is this chart from? Could you mention the source? Hi Ivans. I have made the chart and the drawings based on Valmet dimensioning chart and on an other chart from unknown source. Values in the both charts are quite near to each other.
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to pokslok
thanks. I cheked this chart on my shotgun and found it (chart) very realistic.
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I have sent out several e-mails today with the chart. If you have not gotten the chart, please let me know. Several of the e-mails have been returned multiple times. I do not know why. I am persistant though.
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Figured out have to change it to an image and post it!! (probably means I have too much spare time at work) Someone mentioned a copyright issue, if this violates some copyright law I would be happy to take this down, but it seems that this might help out with the issues above
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it looks very interesting. But here the main sense of the topic is missed - dependence between shooter dimensions and stock dimensions is absent.
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ivans;
This chart was made for reference material. The shooter's physical dimensions provide information to the stocker, because of experience and conversation with the client, providing an accurate starting point in which to build a stock.
The factory dimensions are listed in the chart for starting reference points only. Stock dimensions can be changed depending on the whole chart. I guess the best that can be said is that the chart is a tool not a crystal ball. Experience in fitting and shooting helps the stocker identify potential problems and seek solutions to them. Since you are an idividual unique and special, your stock will not be the same as the one I need.
If you are refering to the medical anatomical science of proportions,in relation to fitting a gunstock, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. My measurment from finger to elbow is 12 1/2". I shoot rifle at 13 5/8" LOP and Shotgun at 14" LOP. If you followed the strict rule of anatomy I should shoot all guns at 12 1/2" LOP
That rule doesn't hold true for myself. In some shooters it does. I am not the exception to the rule. The factory European shotgun LOP is usually one inch longer than the American LOP. Most Americans are rifle shooters and shoot their shotguns the same way. The style of shooting does make a difference in how the chart is applied to stock dimensions. The physical dimensions help identify special needs to consider in building the stock. All factors are put together to make a complete package. The proof of success is a happy client.
Dennis Earl Smith/Benefactor Life NRA, ACGG Professional member
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