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Just like on a boxlock, if you load it those pins should protrude and it would indicate it was loaded.
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The nipple covers are held in place by friction only
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Raimey,
The protruding pins on a "boxlock" are cocking indicators,not loaded indicators.
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Being a exact mirror or what's on the muzzle-loader it is true that those are typically cocking indicators. But BSW had a variant out the back of the frame that were indeed load indicators as were some other variants found on early hammerguns. I believe the term loaded was possibly written on the sides of the strikers?
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I have a BSW with the loaded indicators out the back of the "balls" of the action, but they look completely different from the usual cocking indicators on the side of the action. They do protrude to the rear when the chambers are loaded. They protrude only a short amount, so much so that there is no room to put any writing at all on them to spell out "loaded." Maybe somehow on the hammer guns, but not on this scalloped back boxlock. This gun does not have the cocking indicators on the action sides. I also have a post war Simson labeled gun with both the loaded indicators on top of the "balls" of the action and cocking indicators on the side.
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Maybe I wish I could restart this effort as I seem to have injected confusion, but I'm glad many are reading & following along. With the lock configuration, the pins all but have to be a loaded type indicator. In GGCA's Nr. 34 Fall 2007 there is an article on a Caspar Schaller Suhl percussion with similar nipple covers.
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Raimey,
I appreciate your observations, but I am still confused as to which pins you are referring to. I am going to try to find someone who has a fiber optic inspection camera (i think the bore is large enough to allow it) and see if I can find any protrusion in the bore that would be acted on by the charge to cause a pin to pop out.
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I could easily be all wet on this. If so, I still wonder their function.  If you had a wad of the appropriate size you could check to see if it presses the pin out. But you would have to have a worm to extract it. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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I'll get back to you on this issue. Larry
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In my opinion, if a "pin" did go into the barrel,it would quickly get fouled up by the blackpowder residue.
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