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I am looking at a double that's had its barrels cut down to 27"... possibly from 30". Will this change the POI so much that its "unshootable". Or is the only way to know by patterning it?

Thanks

Adam

Are you sure it's a cut down? Some European and English doubles were made with 27". Gil

The only way you'll know where it is hitting and what the patterns are going to look like with a particlular shell is to shoot it. I've bought a few guns with barrels amputated an inch or three and shot them at a distance that I knew would be a long shot for that gun (30-35 yards) and saw what the results were and made any further determinations from that.

Jack K

I have an Fulton cut to 26" and is now cyl/.002. It was done right because both barrels regulation is smack on, but strangely they throw an ic size pattern. True, is it isn't done correctly they will probably be off, however I've had uncut barrels with bad regulation.

Also have a single barrel H&R 20 cut to 20" and it is smack on.

Yes, the only way to know is patterning.

What is the choke now?

Adam,

I doubt it would have any appreciable effect on the POI, barring perhaps the use of some really heavy load. And I would seriously doubt it would make it 'unshootable', but it might shoot just a tad higher than it did originally, however you would have had to know the POI beforehand to know if it did or not.

FWIW, I have & use a cut bbl.'d Fox Sterlingworth and the bbls were cut back considerably more than what you are asking about. It was cut for an old bird hunter before my time, zero choke in either bbl. and it is both quick & deady behind a dog.

If the bbl's on the gun you are looking at have choke present and it is not jugged or screw-in, then the bbl's are likely not cut. It they have zero choke, but show choke markings, they were.

Addendum: As to performance with any given load you have to pattern it with that load. Regulation was essentially set when the barrels were put together, i.e., 'regulated'. POI can be affected by regulation, chokes being off center [assuming good regulation], stock dmensions, bbl. flip, ammunition being used and even the specific shooter, since there will be difs in faces and how they mount & hold the gun.

I'm thinking the nature of your question was directed specifically to the down flip issue & that's why I responded as I did at first. Hope something of value here for you. Best, tw

I have an LC Smith that had almost 2" trimmed off. Now the chokes are about .005 and .015. It shoots better than I do. Only way to know is shoot it. Later Mark II

Thanks a lot for the help guys.

The guns has no choke at all. Its a 20ga SXS if that matters.

I'll have an inspection period so I'll probably buy it and shoot it. If it's off too bad, I'll send it back.

Thanks again and anymore comments would be greatly appreciated!

Adam

Adam,

The link below is one of the better recent articles on the subject of POI. I thot you may find it useful in your pursuit of perfection.

http://www.mn-trap.org/tech_corner/n_winston/nw_poi_pattern.html

I'd forewarn ya that girls, guns an' dogs can be something a feller never gets over, but fear it's already way too late;-) Hahaha.

Good continued hunting(!), tw

POI is never something to be taken for granted in a double gun...cut or uncut.

If you want some choke Mike Orlen is good a jug choking. He did one of mine that was cyl. He jugged it to a good IC.